FBU
International Debutant
He pulled a hamstring at Headingley while batting and then the knee problem arose. In South Africa he was having injections into the knee. If he is fit and has had match practice he'll take wickets.
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Jimmy Anderson v Matthew Hoggard; in perfect swing bowling conditions
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TT Boy
Hall of Fame Member
I'm saying your wrong. The ball swung when England bowled and second innings when RSA bowled, therefore you are wrong. If you are interesting in digging stuff up, why not read ball by ball innings commentary on Cricinfo where it will explicitly states that there was swing apparent in aforementioned game.
Cricket_God
U19 Cricketer
Anderson Bowls with a angle so he is very good in friendly conditions,Where as hoggard has more straighter delivery action so he was good allover.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
I meant to say "I dont know what you where watching". Since i find your statement baffling.
In centurion i did not swing for the ENG bowlers or the SA in that test, i remember it vividly it was only 6-8 months ago, so i dont need cricinfo commentary to tell me that. That article i showed you refering to the centurion test 1st day - proves my point. The greenish looking first day pitch did not play like a greentop. So you are wrong - you watched a different centurion test.
On Jo'Burg. Same thing i dont how you can tell me that the ENG bowlers especially Anderson got any swing in the SA 1st innings. Are you seriously going to tell me Jo'Burg in the SA 1st innings, was comparable to the Capetown 1st innings when the ball was swinging where Anderson took 5 wickets???
zaremba
Cricketer Of The Year
Interesting point. Puts me in mind of Caddick v Alderman. Not that Hoggard was in Alderman's class, though.
aussie
Hall of Fame Member
Well TBF Hoggard wasn't always good allover. He has is days when he was plain useless in non-seaming conditons. He leart to reverse-swing the ball on flat decks very late in his career.
BTW. This poll is missing the "even" option.
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Lillian Thomson
Hall of Fame Member
What became of aussie?
the big bambino
International Captain
Hmmm. Anderson 10 runs a wicket better bowler in oz than Hoggard
flibbertyjibber
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Stand by this though will admit Jimmy improved dramatically when it wasn't swinging as he got older. The way Hoggy was dumped still hurts after he had carried Harmlessone for years.
Magrat Garlick
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what era are we talking here? Late Moores, right?
Looking back this attack is almost comical https://www.espncricinfo.com/series...ngland-1st-test-england-tour-of-india-2008-09
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Line and Length
Cricketer Of The Year
Talk about cherry picking Mags. One game and one innings (a second one at that) hardly presents the picture of an attck over a full series.
Magrat Garlick
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well it literally was the innings that lost the series.
I can post the bowling averages too, absolute horror show
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What a great match that was. They were spooked a bit by Sehwag's assault on day 4 but recovered pretty well. They were still favorites to finish the job on day 5 but Sachin pulled out a special innings (with Yuvraj's support). Don't think they bowled that badly TBH.
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Fair follow up Mags!
Bijed
International Regular
The most shocking stat in that table is that Panesar had the joint-most catches out of snyone