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    Last bowling slot in my all-time XI

    So, with Murali retiring, my prejudice against including active players in my alltime XI becomes moot and I'm shoe-horning him in.

    It's led me to a bit of a reshuffle of that XI. Currently undecided on the final make up of the bowling attack, have three options that seem near equally good. I'd be interested in what others think.

    The four bowlers I'm pretty much set on would be:
    Sobers (as a batting allrounder obvs)
    Marshall
    Imran
    Murali

    The last spot is a choice between Warne as a second spinner, McGrath/Ambrose as the third quick, or Barnes as Barnes. The wildcard would be to drop a batsman, push Sobey up to five, Gilly to six and Imran to seven, and take McGrath/Ambrose AND Warne or Barnes.

    I'm a bit leary of having just Marshall and Imran as the two genuine quicks, but also attracted to having Barnes' 7 wickets per match or Warne's X-factor in the team. The downside is that they are theoretically playing the hypothetical second XI featuring a bowling attack with whichever two of McGrath/Ambrose/Warne/Barnes that wasn't selected here, plus Hadlee, Lillee, and Miller, so the team will need all the batting it can get.

    What do people reckon, out of those choices?
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    Barnes would be the second name on my XI.(After him)

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    The bowlers in my XI would probably be

    Marshall
    Hadlee
    Barnes
    Grimmett
    Sobers

    5 bowlers each of a different type (if you understand what I mean).
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    Either pick Murali or Warne.. Dont pick both.. I am always a bit biased towards fast bowlers..so I would definitely play 3 genuine fast bowlers.. Sobers is a batsman in my team.. yeah he was also a fantastic bowler..but apart from him I would play 3 fast bowlers

    Marshall and Imran on default
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    6. Sobers
    7. Gilchrist
    8. Imran
    9. Marshall
    10. Murali
    11. McGrath

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    Hadlee's Bowling = McGrath's accuracy (both in terms of line and length) + slightly better outswing than McGrath + much better inswing than McGrath + better pace than McGrath

    Everyone, who has seen both bowl, will probably agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black_Warrior View Post
    Either pick Murali or Warne.. Dont pick both.. I am always a bit biased towards fast bowlers..so I would definitely play 3 genuine fast bowl
    Fair enough if you're biased to fast bowlers. But seriously, even the best two batsman out there would struggle having Murali and Warne bowling from either end.

    As for you Matt, I'd choose Warne, drop a batsman and also choose McGrath.
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    I wonder how Warne and Murali would play together? Both have been the biggest wicket takers of all time, wonder if there would be a factor of competition between the two or would they be professional and work for the team?
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    Warne ahead of Murali as a cricketer every time for my money. Fielding and especially batting he's way ahead, even if one regards Murali as the better bowler. Call yourself a Victorian, Matthew? For shame.
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    Warne's batting is always mentioned, but I don't see how it matters that much in an all-time XI selection. The guy will be batting 9 at most generally (if you've selected the top allrounders). Maybe 8 I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Warne's batting is always mentioned, but I don't see how it matters that much in an all-time XI selection. The guy will be batting 9 at most generally (if you've selected the top allrounders). Maybe 8 I guess.
    Belt and braces man, myself. Might not be needed, but still nice to have all the same.

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    Sobers
    Gilchrist+
    Imran
    Hadlee
    Marshall
    Mcgrath
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    Reckon Warne would love bowling with Murali. He always regretted that after Tim May, he rarely got to bowl with a quality off spinner.

    @ Slifer - can't see how including Hadlee adds more to the team's flexibility and ability to take all comers than including Murali or Warne, given Marshall, Imran and McGrath are already in, in your example.
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    Always struggle a little bit with whether or not to play Imran. He is one of the best players of all time but is he actually needed?

    A side with him is amazing no doubt:

    Sobers
    Gilly
    Imran
    Warne (Murali if you wish)
    Marshall
    Barnes

    But are Hadlee/McGrath or others better bowlers than him? If so then would be tempted to go with them.

    Other option is to put Sobers up to 5 and play another bowler but that seems a little but like overkill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Other option is to put Sobers up to 5 and play another bowler but that seems a little but like overkill.
    Especially when you're weighing up whether that sixth bowling option adds more to the team than a Sachin Tendulkar or Viv Richards!

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