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    patel will now probably have to guide us to victory with the bat as well there's way too much pressure on this guy as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post

    The lack of Williamson is a little scary though, I prey to god New Zealand aren't thinking of playing Ingram and Watling at the top with Guptill at three when this series kicks off next week, although that would hardly be surprising given it's New Zealand cricket where dealing with here. Hopefully with Kyle Mills also not playing they've just decided to give them both a rest as they were the best bowler and batsmen on that trip to Darwin.
    Surely they just think that he is a shoo-in and are giving others a go (which makes it strange that Pinga didn't get a bat). But it would have been nice for him to get another bat in SL conditions.

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    Not necessarily. As good as it would be to see Williamson make his debut, the current line-up is probably:

    Watling/Ingram
    Guptill
    Taylor
    Styris
    Elliot
    Oram
    Hopkins
    McCullum
    Mills
    Tuffee
    McKay/Southee

    Williamson isn't an opener (or at least hasn't been in domestic cricket), so it's unlikely he'll pick up one of those spots. And in the middle-order you would think that Taylor, Styris, Elliot and Oram are all certainties to play (especially given how succesful that lot were during the CT). Hopkins and McCullum/Patel are both certainties you would think, given how inexperienced Williamson is as a bowler. So that would mean that Williamson would only get a run if we decided to go with 2 specialist seamers, which seems unlikely (though not impossible, with Oram back in the side).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    Not necessarily. As good as it would be to see Williamson make his debut, the current line-up is probably:

    Watling/Ingram
    Guptill
    Taylor
    Styris
    Elliot
    Oram
    Hopkins
    McCullum
    Mills
    Tuffee
    McKay/Southee

    Williamson isn't an opener (or at least hasn't been in domestic cricket), so it's unlikely he'll pick up one of those spots. And in the middle-order you would think that Taylor, Styris, Elliot and Oram are all certainties to play (especially given how succesful that lot were during the CT). Hopkins and McCullum/Patel are both certainties you would think, given how inexperienced Williamson is as a bowler. So that would mean that Williamson would only get a run if we decided to go with 2 specialist seamers, which seems unlikely (though not impossible, with Oram back in the side).
    I have a couple of questions.

    1. Why hasn't McCullum played a warm up game?

    2. As good as Elliot's record is, he hasn't been very effective in the warm up games, and is coming off a big injury. Would they really have him in for another good spin option who has been in such good form so far this tour?


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    A middle order of Elliott, Oram and Hopkins is just asking for trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    A middle order of Elliott, Oram and Hopkins is just asking for trouble.
    True. Just looking at the side above, if you can get Vettori, McCullum, Ryder, and Williamson in there, that is a seriously good side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezroy View Post
    I have a couple of questions.

    1. Why hasn't McCullum played a warm up game?

    2. As good as Elliot's record is, he hasn't been very effective in the warm up games, and is coming off a big injury. Would they really have him in for another good spin option who has been in such good form so far this tour?
    1. Dunno. Maybe they're going for Patel ahead of him, but given McCullum's superior batting and his solid efforts against Australia earlier this year, you'd think he'd get the go ahead. We'll see I suppose.

    2. I really don't care about the warm-up games tbh. They are just warm-ups afterall. Elliot's past performances as a middle-order stabiliser means he deserves first go at the spot, even if he is coming back from injury. If he struggles in his first few games, maybe consider swapping him out, but there's no justification for dumping a proven performer for an unknown (even a talented unknown) just because he's been out for a while. That kind of thinking lead us to replace Scott Styris with Neil Broom for 12 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    2. I really don't care about the warm-up games tbh. They are just warm-ups afterall. Elliot's past performances as a middle-order stabiliser means he deserves first go at the spot, even if he is coming back from injury. If he struggles in his first few games, maybe consider swapping him out, but there's no justification for dumping a proven performer for an unknown (even a talented unknown) just because he's been out for a while. That kind of thinking lead us to replace Scott Styris with Neil Broom for 12 months.
    Fair enough, but I'm not sure Broom even did that well for us in warm up games. Think they sort of spat the dummy a bit with Styris around the time that he decided not to play test cricket (ie. spat the dummy).

    Just gunning for Kane to get in this team. I think he could be someone pretty special for NZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jezroy View Post
    Fair enough, but I'm not sure Broom even did that well for us in warm up games. Think they sort of spat the dummy a bit with Styris around the time that he decided not to play test cricket (ie. spat the dummy).

    Just gunning for Kane to get in this team. I think he could be someone pretty special for NZ.
    Broom had been in pretty good form domestically, though I agree that Styris' retirement from tests (and fluffs in the media) probably contributed to his axing.

    Interestingly, Williamson did open for New Zealand against Maharashtra in the game where he hit a century, so perhaps the selectors are considering him as an opener. I'd rather see him start off at 3 or 4 though, given he is just starting out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bahnz View Post
    1. Dunno. Maybe they're going for Patel ahead of him, but given McCullum's superior batting and his solid efforts against Australia earlier this year, you'd think he'd get the go ahead. We'll see I suppose.
    McCullum was playing county T20 for Lancashire, maybe the selectors felt that was good enough build up so the others could get a spot in the lead up games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    A middle order of Elliott, Oram and Hopkins is just asking for trouble.
    What would your batting lineup look like Howise? Genuinely interested, because I don't think you could really leave Elliott out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    What would your batting lineup look like Howise? Genuinely interested, because I don't think you could really leave Elliott out.
    1.Watling 2.Guptill 3.Taylor 4.Williamson 5.Elliott 6.Styris 7.Hopkins

    Oram hasn't scored any runs in literally two years, how anyone could justify having him bat in the top six is a mystery to me. Factor in Elliott not having played much cricket over the past 10 months and bringing in zero form from the warm up games, I really couldn't see that line-up doing too well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    1.Watling 2.Guptill 3.Taylor 4.Williamson 5.Elliott 6.Styris 7.Hopkins

    Oram hasn't scored any runs in literally two years, how anyone could justify having him bat in the top six is a mystery to me. Factor in Elliott not having played much cricket over the past 10 months and bringing in zero form from the warm up games, I really couldn't see that line-up doing too well.
    Hmm. I'd be tempted to have Hopkins bat eight and get twenty overs out of Oram, Williamson, Styris and Elliott. I'd be a lot more happy doing such if I was confident Oram wouldn't bowl one over and then go off injured, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Taylor shouldn't bat 3 IMO
    I really think he should in ODIs. Especially in Sri Lanka.

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