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why batting collapses are rare?

SaeedAnwar

U19 Debutant
Why is that in batting, there are usally 1 or 2 players who will score a half century or even a century ? why overall batting collapses are rare? Like getting 50 all out or even 100 all out. They are pretty rare.
 

TumTum

Banned
Why is that in batting, there are usally 1 or 2 players who will score a half century or even a century ? why overall batting collapses are rare? Like getting 50 all out or even 100 all out. They are pretty rare.
They still happen...
 

Jarquis

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
He said as much himself, he just said they were rare.

I'd say the rarity is behind the fact that batsmen are good at what they do and the fact that in the modern game quite often Test number 8 and 9s are more than competent with the bat. Or in the case of England and Graham Onions, your number 11 is!
If a team loses early wickets than the following batsmen are inevitably going to bat more cautiously and look to just score runs without risking their wickets. Such cautiosness reduces the risk of the collapse..
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
Think it's just to do with the unlikelihood of all 11 batsman failing TBH, nothing more complex than that. Batsmen tend to be pretty good and generally at least one of them does well because of that.
 

Spark

Global Moderator
They still happen cf. us @ Lord's, Oval, England at Headingley, Pakistan (in general).

Pitches a big factor obviously - takes a special effort to collapse on the concrete roads that are laid down nowadays.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
^ Yep its a combination of a lot of factors
Pitches easier to bat on
Lack of 'great' fast bowlers or even spinners around with Murali about to retire.
 

Flem274*

123/5
Why is that in batting, there are usally 1 or 2 players who will score a half century or even a century ? why overall batting collapses are rare? Like getting 50 all out or even 100 all out. They are pretty rare.
I take it you've never seen us at our most beautiful.
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
There is something so reassuring about an England collapse.

They do seem to be getting rarer these days, although Headingley was a wonderful nostalgic blast from the past in a series that was otherwise so unusual.
 

Black_Warrior

Cricketer Of The Year
I am not sure if its rare though..Didnt they collapse againnst South Africa earlier this year?? They just havent played test cricket in 6 months so it seems rare..and the will be up against two crap sides in this summer so they might not have a collapse this summer...
 

Pothas

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Oh we are still prone to bouts of collective crapness, there was the debacle against the West Indies last not long ago.

Still it seems to happen rather less these days, our lower order is certainly far better than it ever has been before.
 

Jayzamann

International Regular
The way professional cricketers are groomed these days, it's 'rare' that at least one or two players will not bunker down, explicitly monitor their strokeplay and running between wickets, and slog out a large score to resurrect an innings.

A bunch of other batsmen may have brainfades in the same situation, but sometimes it is due to the pitch and the pressure as well, for a complete batting collapse.
 

GotSpin

Hall of Fame Member
The way professional cricketers are groomed these days, it's 'rare' that at least one or two players will not bunker down, explicitly monitor their strokeplay and running between wickets, and slog out a large score to resurrect an innings.

A bunch of other batsmen may have brainfades in the same situation, but sometimes it is due to the pitch and the pressure as well, for a complete batting collapse.
What does the modern cricketer have to do with batting collapses other than tail enders becoming better batsmen. It's not like in the past the middle order, frantic at the loss of the openers, threw their bats away and give up.
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
There is something so reassuring about an England collapse.

They do seem to be getting rarer these days, although Headingley was a wonderful nostalgic blast from the past in a series that was otherwise so unusual.
Haha, it was the only live bit of Ashes I've ever seen, the 1st day at Headingley. So dire and awesome at the same time.
 

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!

Jono

Virat Kohli (c)
My biggest pet hate of batting collapses is every pessimistic fan thinks they're the ones that do it the most.

"Oh typical Pakistani collapse"

"Yep, just your usual Calypso collapso"

"Vintage New Zealand this collapse"

Same applies for England and India as well, whose fans complain about their collapses as if they have a trademark over it.
 

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