*Official* South Africa in West Indies

[WindieWeathers]

Originally Posted by shivfan

Shiv and Nash are class, which is why you can't judge them on the last two or three Tests....

It's better to look at their career Test stats when making judgments about their inclusion.

With regards to Dowlin, as I've said before, I'm not a fan of his, but I do accept he merits another run with his Test stats. He's got his run, and I wouldn't be surprised if he's dropped as soon as Barath regains his fitness.

You're flip flopping now Mike!! .. you were blowing the "Dowlin trumpet" from the start and begging for the guy to be included even when i was telling you he's a waste of space, "stats" are a feeble excuse in this case as the guy simply lacks talent, and if we were just going on "stats" then Marlon Samuels should be right back in the team right now!! ,

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by WindieWeathers

So talking about two spinners who were in the top three wicket takers in the last four day regional season means i didn't want Shilly in the side? yep makes perfect sense!! , as i already said i was raving about him since his A-team performances against Zimbabwe and Bangladesh a few months ago, and defended him while others had doubts, you can also "research" those comments if you wish .

Funnily enough searching for posts made by you which include Shillingford seems to come up with the likes of:

Originally Posted by WindieWeathers

Well as everyone knows i've been backing Kantasingh and with Powell i'm just happy to see him progressing, he's got over 30 runs in his last three or four games since he moved to three and i believe he'll get better, then hopefully he'll be Sarwan's long term replacement.

Originally Posted by WindieWeathers

Nah Collins is too old now, the only bowlers who should be considered are Kantasingh and Khan imo,

Originally Posted by WindieWeathers

imo we've looked at the likes of Miller and Benn for far too long now, it's time to see what Imran Khan (last seasons top wicket taker), Kavesh Kantasingh and Devandre Bishoo can do, those are the new generation of spinners we have coming through, .

It all goes back to the scattergun approach of supporting people (and the odd definition of success that you appear to have)

Then you have the temerity to go on to accuse others of "flip flopping"...

[shivfan]

Originally Posted by Scaly piscine

Disgraceful batting.

They've scored 38 runs in the 23 overs today. ****ing disgraceful.

Of course, the innings is not helped by the left-arm 'spinner' Harris bowling every single delivery of the session over the wicket to the right-handed Bravo, pitching way outside leg....

This is extremely negative stuff from the Saffers.

[WindieWeathers]

Originally Posted by marc71178

Funnily enough searching for posts made by you which include Shillingford seems to come up with the likes of:


It all goes back to the scattergun approach of supporting people (and the odd definition of success that you appear to have)

Then you have the temerity to go on to accuse others of "flip flopping"...

Of look it's "Columbo"

Erm do you understand the term "flip flopping"? clearly not , "flip flopping" would be me totally running down Shilly before and now praising him, which is something i haven't done, my praising of Khan and Kantasingh was down to their performances in the regional competition and if you actually pay attention to WI cricket you'd see Khan actually got picked for the A-team and is still in it to this day, so my praise of him WAS JUSTIFIED!!,

Keep "analyzing" my posts though, hopefully it will improve your knowledge about WI cricket!! .

[Scaly piscine]

Originally Posted by shivfan

Of course, the innings is not helped by the left-arm 'spinner' Harris bowling every single delivery of the session over the wicket to the right-handed Bravo, pitching way outside leg....

This is extremely negative stuff from the Saffers.

They're not even trying to score. For instance Tsotsobe in his current spell has 6-5-2-0. It's more than a joke, it's disgrace to West Indies cricket to play like this. There's only team who can realistically win the game and it's the West Indies.

Chanderpaul out.

[Jayzamann]

Partnership: 100 runs, 54.5 overs, RR: 1.82

/wrists

[popepouri]

Originally Posted by shivfan

Of course, the innings is not helped by the left-arm 'spinner' Harris bowling every single delivery of the session over the wicket to the right-handed Bravo, pitching way outside leg....

This is extremely negative stuff from the Saffers.

Bull ****.

Harris' figures for that session 10-2-15-0

The session yielded 39 runs from 25 overs, meaning they're going just as slow from the other end.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Originally Posted by WindieWeathers

No you just blatantly made a subliminal comment about something i was debating with someone else!! , there's obviously a "HUGE" difference Mr M isn't there?!!

No autographs, thanks.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Originally Posted by shivfan

This is why I'm concerned about Chesney Hughes....

Will he follow the precedents of Chris Jordan, Maurice Chambers and Robbie Joseph, none of whom seem to be interested in WI cricket, despite learning how to play the game in the region.

All of whom are FAR more WI standard than England too! They should take a lesson from Nash.

On another note, brilliant Ramdin. Flat pitch, crap bowling, hit it to point. Brilliant.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Originally Posted by popepouri

Bull ****.

Harris' figures for that session 10-2-15-0

The session yielded 39 runs from 25 overs, meaning they're going slower from the other end.

Well the bowling is often a couple feet outside offstump, but I agree. Bravo in particular has lacked impetus. But then we look at Bangladesh today. Maybe it's a global disease affecting bad teams. Hmmm...

[kingkallis]

384 runs were scored by Windies in 1st 100 overs and only 96 came from next 60...jeeez thats some serious crawling!

[kingkallis]

Originally Posted by WindieWeathers

I understand we had Australia in trouble in that Test, but it seems that these days our big performances seem to be in vain, the senior players seem to always turn up when we are already behind (one nil down in the series), why didn't they play like this in the first test? that's my argument.

Pretty simple! They were playing on proper cricketing turf......and not on the road!

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Originally Posted by kingkallis

384 runs were scored by Windies in 1st 100 overs and only 96 came from next 60...jeeez thats some serious crawling!

And in fairness, Graeme Smith would have it no other way. Done his best to ensure it with typically soulsapping cricket. Both sides have been rather disgraceful on the "entertainment" front today. And hey, it's no wrestling, but all sports should be entertaining.

Kallis just took his 50th wicket vs WI. That's 1/5 of his overall tally.

[kingkallis]

Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk

All of whom are FAR more WI standard than England too! They should take a lesson from Nash.

On another note, brilliant Ramdin. Flat pitch, crap bowling, hit it to point. Brilliant.

Give the guy a break! I have seen better knocks in tight situation against top class bowling attacks from him and Bravo as a pair...

[kingkallis]

Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk

And in fairness, Graeme Smith would have it no other way. Done his best to ensure it with typically soulsapping cricket. Both sides have been rather disgraceful on the "entertainment" front today. And hey, it's no wrestling, but all sports should be entertaining.

Kallis just took his 50th wicket vs WI. That's 1/5 of his overall tally.

2 lefties were scoring at 6 an over...WI scored 300+ yesterday! Obviously Smith was going to try to content them!

I thaught Windies would try to score 320/330 in the day and would give the SAF a hard time on the 5th day but....well! Bravo and Chander just gave in...