*Official* South Africa in West Indies

[marc71178]

Yes, but if you make enough crazy predictions eventually one has to be right...

[Top_Cat]

Any word about your mate Dowlin Mike? i'm surprised you even have the cheek to try and call me out on that one, Chanders has been shocking for the past year and Nash didn't cover himself in glory in the first Test either , granted it's nice to see the lads prove that they are actually proper cricketers for a change but like the second test against Australia last December the hard work is only likely to get us a draw in the end.

Can't help but feel you're missing the point. The only team fighting for a draw on day 5 was Australia, the WI just didn't quite have the bowling support to take advantage of the great batting by Gayle after Benn and Roach put them in with a chance on day 3 (you'll always struggle when Bravo is your 1st change).

And this Test is a perfect example of why you don't drop class players just because they're having a bad trot.

[WindieWeathers]

Yes, but if you make enough crazy predictions eventually one has to be right...

Don't be mad because i know a good spinner when i see one!! .

[WindieWeathers]

Can't help but feel you're missing the point. The only team fighting for a draw on day 5 was Australia, the WI just didn't quite have the bowling support to take advantage of the great batting by Gayle after Benn and Roach put them in with a chance on day 3 (you'll always struggle when Bravo is your 1st change).

And this Test is a perfect example of why you don't drop class players just because they're having a bad trot.

I understand we had Australia in trouble in that Test, but it seems that these days our big performances seem to be in vain, the senior players seem to always turn up when we are already behind (one nil down in the series), why didn't they play like this in the first test? that's my argument.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

LOL @ questioning whether Chanders and Nash are proper cricketers.

Some things never change. And some things I truly do not miss.

[WindieWeathers]

LOL @ questioning whether Chanders and Nash are proper cricketers.

Some things never change. And some things I truly do not miss.

And clearly you distorting my opinion hasn't "changed" either Mr M!!.. that's something i certainly haven't missed too!! ,

I was merely talking about the teams performance in the first Test, being all out for 102 was schoolboy stuff and simply unacceptable!!.

[marc71178]

Don't be mad because i know a good spinner when i see one!! .

Rate him so much that in the past few months you've advocated at least 2 other spinners ahead of him?

Like I said, make enough crazy predictions and one will eventually come right.

However the other calls (such as dropping Chanderpaul and Nash) kind of outweigh the one success (if 7 wickets @ an average of over 50 can be called a success)

[WindieWeathers]

Rate him so much that in the past few months you've advocated at least 2 other spinners ahead of him?

Like I said, make enough crazy predictions and one will eventually come right.

However the other calls (such as dropping Chanderpaul and Nash) kind of outweigh the one success (if 7 wickets @ an average of over 50 can be called a success)

And who would those "two spinners" be then? because i've been calling for Shilly to play since he pulled up trees for the A-team a few months ago,

Secondly i simply think it's time for the younger generation to get a chance, as good as Nash and Chanders have been in this Test they were shocking in the last one, Collin Croft has called for the seniors to be dropped too, a legend of a bowler who knows the game inside out so do you believe you know more about cricket than he does? .

[L Trumper]

And who would those "two spinners" be then? because i've been calling for Shilly to play since he pulled up trees for the A-team a few months ago,

Secondly i simply think it's time for the younger generation to get a chance, as good as Nash and Chanders have been in this Test they were shocking in the last one, Collin Croft has called for the seniors to be dropped too, a legend of a bolwer who knows the game inside out so do you believe you know more about cricket than he does? .

There are countless former cricketers who say you don't bleed entire set of new players at the same time. You think you know better cricket than all of'em?
You know what don't bother to answer that, you do think that.

[WindieWeathers]

There are countless former cricketers who say you don't bleed entire set of new players at the same time. You think you know better cricket than all of'em?
You know what don't bother to answer that, you do think that.

My point is the notion that the seniors should be dropped WAS NOT JUST MY OPINION, respected people inside the game in the West Indies have also expressed the same views, you and others might think it's "mad", but that's easy to say when it's not your team that's suffering .

[L Trumper]

My point is the notion that the seniors should be dropped WAS NOT JUST MY OPINION, respected people inside the game in the West Indies have also expressed the same views, you and others might think it's "mad", but that's easy to say when it's not your team that's suffering .

Well as far back as I can remember I have always supported WI, just because i ain't born there, doesn't make it not my team.

[roseboy64]

Yeah, it's well known that Gayle and Benn don't like each other.

Actually Gayle and Benn are friends. Or were anyway before the bustup.

[GotSpin]

Very pleased to see the WI carry on after Gayle was out. I feared a Windies collapse, especially with Chanderpaul looking terribly scratchy at the beginning and Bravo coming in at 6. I do think WI have the best chance out of the two teams to win this game, though of course, an incredibly small chance. Best bet would be to notch up 600 asap tonight and see if they can make inroads into the SA lie up. Unlikely, but it could happen.

I think it's incredibly unfair to criticise the 'senior' players after they improved on their previous performance in the first Test. Had they scored mountains of runs in the first test then bomb out here I think it'd be fair to be up in arms, but this is clearly a good sign to see Chanderpaul and Nash back in the runs after a deprived stretch.

[roseboy64]

NO problem with blooding young players but they've had to have been playing well for at least two seasons. Chesney Hughes does well for the rest of this season and next and I wouldn't mind him getting a chance. Bravo does well next season and I'm all for him getting a chance.

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

And clearly you distorting my opinion hasn't "changed" either Mr M!!.. that's something i certainly haven't missed too!! ,

I was merely talking about the teams performance in the first Test, being all out for 102 was schoolboy stuff and simply unacceptable!!.

I didn't quote you or address anything toward you. That you think I did speaks for itself.

Some things never change. And some things I truly do not miss.