Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst ... 23456 ... LastLast
Results 46 to 60 of 92

Thread: India A tour of England

  1. #46
    Cricketer Of The Year Arjun's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Mumbai, India
    Posts
    8,367
    Quote Originally Posted by Manee View Post
    This 'A Team' tour is a good opportunity for young cricketers to make an impact against some talented players. Unadkat's 13fer will surely catapult him into the selectors minds for the medium to long term....but if someone does not perform domestically, they won't internationally and the opposite is true, at least to some extent.
    The emphasis should be on learning to play abroad, rather than making a claim for selection. I'd prefer to see Unadkat winning matches consistently for his teams, and making good use of his knowledge from each A-team tour, than playing in the Test team five years ahead of time. A lot of these players are a few years away from an India call-up, and they'd benefit best by doing well for those years in domestic/development/reserve teams. More than runs and wickets, knowledge gained on this tour will help them get better. When it comes to national selection, the selectors should settle for the final product and nothing less.

    A whole lot of Indian bowlers need to work on their speed, and it often won't work. They don't seem to get it right, as a thirst for extra pace results in lack of accuracy and even overstepping. On the other hand, bowlers with the basic element of accuracy, as well as added skills of ball movement (and extra skills such as old-ball bowling, as also runs and fielding), should be picked, and pace should take care of itself with scientific techniques. They tried to play Sreesanth, Munaf, VRV Singh, Tyagi, Dinda and Yadav as pacers and failed. Somehow, picking bowlers on promise of pace doesn't work with India, and they need to approach this differently, although picking bowlers of sufficiently robust or streamlined build will also help.

    While A-team tours have often brought to the fore many batsmen, a few spinners and that odd seamer, the lack of emphasis on multi-role players is disappointing.
    "Talent is nothing without opportunity"
    "You're not remembered for aiming at the target, but hitting it"

    Twenty20 used to be boring.

    Sponsored...by...nothing!!!

  2. #47
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    England
    Posts
    2,823
    Quote Originally Posted by Beamer View Post
    I would love to go Mike but I'm already committed to go to a birthday party on the Saturday and I don't think I can get away with another day off work so soon .

    I will probably still try though! If you do go Mike I would love to hear your report. I think you will be pleasantly surprised by Imran Khan's batting. He really did look good in this match and I'm not quite sure how he is averageing only 25 at FC level.
    if the weather is good, I will be there on Sunday....

    if you do change your mind, and decide to go, let me know, so we can link up.

  3. #48
    Banned
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Nowhere
    Posts
    4,793
    Quote Originally Posted by Arjun View Post
    The emphasis should be on learning to play abroad, rather than making a claim for selection. I'd prefer to see Unadkat winning matches consistently for his teams, and making good use of his knowledge from each A-team tour, than playing in the Test team five years ahead of time. A lot of these players are a few years away from an India call-up, and they'd benefit best by doing well for those years in domestic/development/reserve teams. More than runs and wickets, knowledge gained on this tour will help them get better. When it comes to national selection, the selectors should settle for the final product and nothing less.

    A whole lot of Indian bowlers need to work on their speed, and it often won't work. They don't seem to get it right, as a thirst for extra pace results in lack of accuracy and even overstepping. On the other hand, bowlers with the basic element of accuracy, as well as added skills of ball movement (and extra skills such as old-ball bowling, as also runs and fielding), should be picked, and pace should take care of itself with scientific techniques. They tried to play Sreesanth, Munaf, VRV Singh, Tyagi, Dinda and Yadav as pacers and failed. Somehow, picking bowlers on promise of pace doesn't work with India, and they need to approach this differently, although picking bowlers of sufficiently robust or streamlined build will also help.

    While A-team tours have often brought to the fore many batsmen, a few spinners and that odd seamer, the lack of emphasis on multi-role players is disappointing.
    I've always believed great allrounders are born, not made. There is no point in "developing" a mediocre "all rounder" at the cost of a promising specialist imho.

  4. #49
    Cricketer Of The Year Manee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Heaven
    Posts
    8,433
    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Alex View Post
    I've always believed great allrounders are born, not made. There is no point in "developing" a mediocre "all rounder" at the cost of a promising specialist imho.
    Nah, I disagree. If someone works hard on the batting, it does not mean the bowling must decline and vice versa, that is a false dichotomy, imo, and one not backed up by reason.
    The speed at which a fielding team gets through the innings is overrated.


  5. #50
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    England
    Posts
    2,823
    A century for Pujara, and a three-fer for Russell so far....

  6. #51
    Cricketer Of The Year Manee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Heaven
    Posts
    8,433
    Really promising stuff from India A. Will be interesting to see how they bowl. Really baffles me how Jaskaran is there, despite not playing a FC game.

  7. #52
    Hall of Fame Member Cevno's Avatar
    Simon Champion!
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    India
    Posts
    15,794
    It's a real pity players like Vijay and Karthik have gotten into the Indian team,specially the test team ahead of Pujara.

  8. #53
    Cricketer Of The Year Manee's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2006
    Location
    Heaven
    Posts
    8,433
    Quote Originally Posted by Cevno View Post
    It's a real pity players like Vijay and Karthik have gotten into the Indian team,specially the test team ahead of Pujara.
    Vijay is fair enough, he has a good record. Karthik tended to be in as a wicket keeper, except the one time when the team was struck by injuries.

  9. #54
    Hall of Fame Member Cevno's Avatar
    Simon Champion!
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    India
    Posts
    15,794
    Quote Originally Posted by Manee View Post
    Vijay is fair enough, he has a good record. Karthik tended to be in as a wicket keeper, except the one time when the team was struck by injuries.
    Pujara has a better record than Vijay and anyone can tell ,watching them in anything except t20's that Pujara is a better talent. Pujara has almost carried Saurashtra single handedly at such a young age for a couple of years on inferior pitches to Vijay.

    Even when Vijay was selected for the team as a opener Mukund should have been selected at the time.And i do not see what is the point in persisting with him now in the middle order in both forms.

  10. #55
    International Debutant Cruxdude's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    2,446
    I would love to see Pujara play in the place of Yuvraj. I don't want him to end his career being talked about as a prospective India player.

  11. #56
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    England
    Posts
    2,823
    It's good to see players like Fletcher and Smith hitting centuries on yesterday's penultimate day.....

  12. #57
    International Coach GotSpin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Stranger leering through a pair of binoculars
    Posts
    12,826
    Quote Originally Posted by shivfan View Post
    It's good to see players like Fletcher and Smith hitting centuries on yesterday's penultimate day.....
    Is Russell a good bowler?
    Mark Waugh
    "He's [Michael Clarke] on Twitter saying sorry for not walking? Mate if he did that in our side there'd be hell to play. AB would chuck his Twitter box off the balcony or whatever it is. Sorry for not walking? Jesus Christ man."
    Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit. Wisdom is knowing not to put it into a fruit salad
    RIP Craigos

  13. #58
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    England
    Posts
    2,823
    Quote Originally Posted by Got_Spin View Post
    Is Russell a good bowler?
    A pretty decent pace prospect from Jamaica. Roseboy might've actually seen him bowl in the flesh - I haven't, but reports are he has a good bit of pace, and has a little bit of height too.

    He can also bat a little bit too, which helps. He didn't play much for Jamaica this season, only coming into the side towards the end, but he should feature next season, I'd think.

  14. #59
    International Coach GotSpin's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Stranger leering through a pair of binoculars
    Posts
    12,826
    Quote Originally Posted by shivfan View Post
    A pretty decent pace prospect from Jamaica. Roseboy might've actually seen him bowl in the flesh - I haven't, but reports are he has a good bit of pace, and has a little bit of height too.

    He can also bat a little bit too, which helps. He didn't play much for Jamaica this season, only coming into the side towards the end, but he should feature next season, I'd think.
    Interesting. Felt proud of my WI knowledge when one of the commentators last night mentioned an up and coming bowling all-rounder and I knew it was Russell. Guess he'll need some time to prove himself in first class though

  15. #60
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    England
    Posts
    2,823
    Generally, I've been impressed by the knowledge quite a lot of posters on this MB have about WI cricket, even though the Windies are not their first team....

Page 4 of 7 FirstFirst ... 23456 ... LastLast


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. *Official* Australia in England T20s and ODIs
    By James in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 2187
    Last Post: 26-09-2009, 03:34 PM
  2. CMJ's top 100
    By bagapath in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 330
    Last Post: 17-07-2009, 08:29 AM
  3. England vs India
    By James in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 121
    Last Post: 22-10-2006, 12:16 AM
  4. Oldest Test Team?
    By chaminda_00 in forum Cricket Chat
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: 13-09-2006, 10:01 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •