India A tour of England

[stumpski]

'A' teams playing each other at Leicester today, with Jaidev Unadkat taking seven wickets on first-class debut. Yet another left-arm seamer, India do seem to produce a lot of them.

[Manee]

Originally Posted by stumpski

'A' teams playing each other at Leicester today, with Jaidev Unadkat taking seven wickets on first-class debut. Yet another left-arm seamer, India do seem to produce a lot of them.

He is an interesting one. He was dropped during the U19 World Cup but returned in the latter games. He came on first change and impressed, not with figures, but with a bit of zip and bounce that he had. He bowled at around 135kph, which is quite good for U19 cricket, and hit the bat hard and was played like someone who was bowling quickly. He then played for KKR in the IPL and did okay, but looked average. Will be interesting to see how he is actually bowling (obvs not that badly) atm.

[Sir Alex]

Originally Posted by Manee

He is an interesting one. He was dropped during the U19 World Cup but returned in the latter games. He came on first change and impressed, not with figures, but with a bit of zip and bounce that he had. He bowled at around 135kph, which is quite good for U19 cricket, and hit the bat hard and was played like someone who was bowling quickly. He then played for KKR in the IPL and did okay, but looked average. Will be interesting to see how he is actually bowling (obvs not that badly) atm.

Rated highly by Akram

[Xuhaib]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

Rated highly by Akram

so was Irfan

[Manee]

Originally Posted by Xuhaib

so was Irfan

He used to be very good though, It is usually assumed that a young bowler will improve with age, or at least, not lose every natural asset he once had. Alas, with India, such decline tends to be the common reality.

[shivfan]

WIndies batting was woeful....

[Sir Alex]

Lord look at those FC batting figures!

Pujara 3692 runs @ 59
Ajinkya Rahane 3621 @ 67
Mukund - 2179 runs @ 54.5
Tiwary - 2846 @ 55

And we have Yuvraj, Raina, Kohli etc talked of as our next best.. ****.

[Manee]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

Lord look at those FC batting figures!

Pujara 3692 runs @ 59
Ajinkya Rahane 3621 @ 67
Mukund - 2179 runs @ 54.5
Tiwary - 2846 @ 55

And we have Yuvraj, Raina, Kohli etc talked of as our next best.. ****.

It is what happens when you value ODI figures more than FC figures regarding Test cricket. Tbf though, Yuvi, Raina and Kohli all have solid FC records, removing Tests in Yuvi's case.

[Sir Alex]

Originally Posted by Manee

It is what happens when you value ODI figures more than FC figures regarding Test cricket. Tbf though, Yuvi, Raina and Kohli all have solid FC records, removing Tests in Yuvi's case.

Not anything near what Rahane, Pujara etc are having. **** selectors can't look past IPL.

They might turn out to be Hicks or Ramprakashs, but it is worth the effort trying them out rather than falling back on Yuvraj time and again, or worse accomodate Murali Vijay in the middle order etc.. They toyed with Gambhir like this, he should've ideally debuted when we were struggling to find anyone to open with Sehwag, like Chopra, Bangar etc.

None of them out have any vision. It's limited to the next bloody IPL at best.

[Manee]

Look at what Yuvi has done, minus Test cricket (and consider that his peak has been spent playing ODI cricket) and what Raina/Kohli have done in the last year or two.

[shivfan]

I think this shows that talk about pushing young WI batsmen into the main team early in their careers may just be premature....

[Sir Alex]

Originally Posted by Manee

Look at what Yuvi has done, minus Test cricket (and consider that his peak has been spent playing ODI cricket) and what Raina/Kohli have done in the last year or two.

Lol because you think Yuvraj is past his peak now.

What has Kohli and Raina done except making tonloads of runs against SL or mediocre opposition on airport runways in ODIs and T20s?

[Manee]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

Lol because you think Yuvraj is past his peak now.

What has Kohli and Raina done except making tonloads of runs against SL or mediocre opposition on airport runways in ODIs and T20s?

Kohli and Raina both had strong First Class seasons in the past two years. Remember, that they started FC cricket when they were very young. Yuvraj Singh is not past his peak, but the bulk of his career, at the top of his game, has been spent with the ODI team, not inflating the FC average. The averages of Rahane and co are brilliant, but you must put them into perspective. The pitches are flat, the pace bowlers often slow and runs easy to come by. A 'good' average in an Indian domestic season is a lot higher than, say, in an English season and so this must be taken into account. However, this is still not to say we don't have a plethora of batting talent.

[Manee]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

Rated highly by Akram

Any info on what Wasim particularly rates?

[shivfan]

The WI bowlers have done well to peg back the Indians this morning....

So far, Andre Russell has taken 5-44 to restrict India to 217-8.