Smith to take North spot at No 6 for Aus test team

Malleeboy · 15-05-2010, 02:22 AM

Given part of the reason to pick North was his part time tweaking, then Smith for North would make good sense. Unfortunately Marcus North just has never grabbed me as solid number 6.

Watson
Katich
Ponting
Clarke
Hussey
Smith
Haddin
Johnson
Hauritz
Siddle/Harris
Bollinger

Matt79 · 15-05-2010, 02:54 AM

As per my sig, would rather see White in the short term, but Smith has made a really good start to his career and long term, I think they could both be in the team. The "spin-bowling number 6" has become less important with Hauritz's improvement in anycase - with Watson already providing a fifth bowling option, and Katich and Clarke in the team anyhow, the number 6 slot should simply go to the best batsman.

andyc · 15-05-2010, 03:01 AM

That's why I was really annoyed that North got amongst the runs in NZ; if he'd failed in both Tests, and maybe even just the first, Smith would be a shoe-in come the Pakistan series. Given that North did score though, his position will be guaranteed for a little longer, and so the only chance of Smith getting a game is as a spinner coming in at number 7 at the highest, which would not only be a waste of his batting, but an overstatement of his bowling at the moment (IMO), as well as a bit of a slap in the face to Hauritz, who has done well.

Noble One · 15-05-2010, 03:06 AM

Pointless role the 6th bowling option.

North is currently in the side solely for his batting. Considering the selectors stuck with North through a pretty horrid run of form, and he came good, then he will retain his place.

Selecting Smith as a number six batsman will simply retard his development as a leg-spinner. The last thing he needs is to bowl 5 overs a game and be considered largely for his batting. He will simply never develop, and that would be such a waste. Wait until he proves himself a better spinner than Hauritz trough Sheffield Shield cricket.

Matt79 · 15-05-2010, 03:08 AM

Correction: wait to see IF he proves himself a better spinner than Hauritz. Ritz is pretty good these days.

Nnanden · 15-05-2010, 03:15 AM

Smith's batting has shown more promise than his bowling in First Class cricket imo. That said, he is developing into a genuine FC all-rounder. His bowling against the Redbacks back in March was lovely.

Sir Alex · 15-05-2010, 03:15 AM

Atleast 1 season too early. He should play ODIs though

Nnanden · 15-05-2010, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir Alex

Atleast 1 season too early. He should play ODIs though

Not primarily as a bowler though, please, Cricket Australia.

Marcuss · 15-05-2010, 03:19 AM

Before his 7fa he was averaging about 4 billion with the ball wasn't he? Definitely not the time to be picking him based on his bowling IMO. If he's the best #6 batsman you have, then fair enough.

Noble One · 15-05-2010, 03:30 AM

I think what excites many about the bowling of Smith is how much he improved in the space of a season. At the start of the 09/10 season many of us (including myself) wrote him off, as he was horrendous. Struggled to land a threatening delivery, and would resort to a flat trajectory as soon as he was attacked. Over the space of the season many of us then recognized just how much he had improved. He is not the finished product yet but if has a similar season of learning then he could be great.

How many flat trackers has he bowled in this T20 world cup? Probably count them on one hand. Last year he would bowl 3 an over.

Keep him away from the Test team until he actually does deserve it.

Matt79 · 15-05-2010, 03:55 AM

Book him in for a couple of two hour sessions with Warne a month. He's still raving in the media about how much Warney taught him in fifteen minutes out the back of the nets when he was 12th man.

BoyBrumby · 15-05-2010, 04:32 AM

Think the boy's bowling is a lot better than his career figures suggest. Oz seems a spinner's graveyard just now because Haurtiz is no way a 40+ per wicket bowler, as his test figures obviously show.

Haven't seen enough of his (Smith's) batting to judge if he's ready for the top 6 in tests yet.

UK passport holder ftr, so we can bathe in his glory too.

GotSpin · 15-05-2010, 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt79

Book him in for a couple of two hour sessions with Warne a month. He's still raving in the media about how much Warney taught him in fifteen minutes out the back of the nets when he was 12th man.

yeah when we were at the pub a couple months after he couldn't stop raving about the great man

zaremba · 15-05-2010, 06:54 AM

He's part of a major trend in pug-faced Crim cricketers, along with Siddle, Warner and White.

fredfertang · 15-05-2010, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zaremba

He's part of a major trend in pug-faced Crim cricketers, along with Siddle, Warner and White.

Is there a Darwinian theory to explain this phenomenon?

15-05-2010, 02:22 AM	#1 (permalink)
Malleeboy School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 172	Smith to take North spot at No 6 for Aus test team Given part of the reason to pick North was his part time tweaking, then Smith for North would make good sense. Unfortunately Marcus North just has never grabbed me as solid number 6. Watson Katich Ponting Clarke Hussey Smith Haddin Johnson Hauritz Siddle/Harris Bollinger

15-05-2010, 03:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Nnanden You'll Never Walk Alone Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New South Wales Posts: 26,190	Smith's batting has shown more promise than his bowling in First Class cricket imo. That said, he is developing into a genuine FC all-rounder. His bowling against the Redbacks back in March was lovely. __________________ Jesus saves proudly supporting Liverpool FC

15-05-2010, 04:32 AM	#12 (permalink)
BoyBrumby Englishman Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Doing the stance Posts: 42,646	Think the boy's bowling is a lot better than his career figures suggest. Oz seems a spinner's graveyard just now because Haurtiz is no way a 40+ per wicket bowler, as his test figures obviously show. Haven't seen enough of his (Smith's) batting to judge if he's ready for the top 6 in tests yet. UK passport holder ftr, so we can bathe in his glory too. __________________ *- As featured in The Independent.* "This is not the time for namby-pamby promising youngsters who might just do something; not the time for building for the future. Pragmatism rules and they don't come more pragmatic than Rogers." - Victor Marks makes the case for stiff-legged and stiff-armed 35 year old left-handers in Ashes squads

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15-05-2010, 03:06 AM	#4 (permalink)
Noble One International Vice-Captain Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 4,112	Pointless role the 6th bowling option. North is currently in the side solely for his batting. Considering the selectors stuck with North through a pretty horrid run of form, and he came good, then he will retain his place. Selecting Smith as a number six batsman will simply retard his development as a leg-spinner. The last thing he needs is to bowl 5 overs a game and be considered largely for his batting. He will simply never develop, and that would be such a waste. Wait until he proves himself a better spinner than Hauritz trough Sheffield Shield cricket.

15-05-2010, 03:08 AM	#5 (permalink)
Matt79 Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Colll----ingggg---woooooodddd!!!! Posts: 17,427	Correction: wait to see IF he proves himself a better spinner than Hauritz. Ritz is pretty good these days.

15-05-2010, 03:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
Sir Alex Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nowhere Posts: 4,793	Atleast 1 season too early. He should play ODIs though

15-05-2010, 03:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
Noble One International Vice-Captain Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 4,112	I think what excites many about the bowling of Smith is how much he improved in the space of a season. At the start of the 09/10 season many of us (including myself) wrote him off, as he was horrendous. Struggled to land a threatening delivery, and would resort to a flat trajectory as soon as he was attacked. Over the space of the season many of us then recognized just how much he had improved. He is not the finished product yet but if has a similar season of learning then he could be great. How many flat trackers has he bowled in this T20 world cup? Probably count them on one hand. Last year he would bowl 3 an over. Keep him away from the Test team until he actually does deserve it.

15-05-2010, 03:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
Matt79 Global Moderator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Colll----ingggg---woooooodddd!!!! Posts: 17,427	Book him in for a couple of two hour sessions with Warne a month. He's still raving in the media about how much Warney taught him in fifteen minutes out the back of the nets when he was 12th man.

15-05-2010, 06:54 AM	#14 (permalink)
zaremba Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: chez les Ashes Posts: 8,730	He's part of a major trend in pug-faced Crim cricketers, along with Siddle, Warner and White.

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