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    Bang A vs SA A vs WI A

    Some interesting A team contests are taking place in Bangladesh right now....

    South Africa just beat Bangladesh in two four-day games, and along with the West Indies, a tri-series one-dayer competition is taking place. That will be followed up by the WI playing a couple of four-day games against Bangladesh.

    This series should be useful to see how the second-string Saffers perform, especially with Ashwell Prince and JP Duminy struggling with the bat.

    1) Rilee Rousouw: We heard a lot about the potential of this batsman, but what were his scores in the four-day games? 25, 81, 68, and 16 in the first one-dayer. Frankly, if you can't score centuries against a second-string Bangladeshi attack, you're probably not ready for Test cricket quite yet.

    2) The top run-scorers in the four-day games were Tsolekile (251 runs @ an average of 125.5), Kuhn (239 @ 119.5), and Alviro Petersen (248 @ 82). It would seem that this trio is in pole position should Duminy and Prince continue to fail in the West Indies....

    3) Elgar, another highly-touted prospect, did not do well at all. In the four-day games, he had scores of 48, 17 and 4.

    4) The Saffer centurions in the four-day games were Tsolikile (twice), Petersen and Kuhn.

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    Well South Africa A thrashed Bangladesh A in the first match and now West Indies A have squeezed home by 11 runs against South Africa A.

    Scores:

    Windies A 224 all out (Kirk Edwards 49, Devon Smith 39, Travis Dowlin 39, Chadwick Walton 31, Tasabalala, Tostobe, Baily and Harris all got two wickets).

    South Africa A 213 all out (Van Wyk 51, Bailey 31, Shane Shillingford 4/22, Nelon Pascal 3/43)

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    Shilly is really having a good run with the ball....

    Imran had a poor allround match. Nash's return to action wasn't great, either. Hopefully, they'll bounce back in the next one. It's good to see Edwards among the runs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shivfan View Post
    Shilly is really having a good run with the ball....

    Imran had a poor allround match. Nash's return to action wasn't great, either. Hopefully, they'll bounce back in the next one. It's good to see Edwards among the runs.
    I think poor is overstating it a bit Mike, he did bowl 10 economical overs afterall. Guillen, Nash and Bravo were extremely dissapointing however.


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    Another victory for West Indies A today. More wickets for Pascal and Shillingford who are making big cases for themselves. Darren Bravo scored a patient 69 and Brendan Nash hit 60 from just 46 balls.

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    Another win for the West Indies....

    West Indies A 259-7 (50)
    Nash 60 off 49 balls. Bravo 69 off 114 Balls. Imran Khan shows his allround capabilities with 2 Wickets and 31* off 27.

    Bangladesh A 230 all out
    Nazimuddin 89
    Pascal 4-49, Shilly 3-38

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    Quote Originally Posted by shivfan View Post
    Some interesting A team contests are taking place in Bangladesh right now....

    South Africa just beat Bangladesh in two four-day games, and along with the West Indies, a tri-series one-dayer competition is taking place. That will be followed up by the WI playing a couple of four-day games against Bangladesh.

    This series should be useful to see how the second-string Saffers perform, especially with Ashwell Prince and JP Duminy struggling with the bat.

    1) Rilee Rousouw: We heard a lot about the potential of this batsman, but what were his scores in the four-day games? 25, 81, 68, and 16 in the first one-dayer. Frankly, if you can't score centuries against a second-string Bangladeshi attack, you're probably not ready for Test cricket quite yet.

    2) The top run-scorers in the four-day games were Tsolekile (251 runs @ an average of 125.5), Kuhn (239 @ 119.5), and Alviro Petersen (248 @ 82). It would seem that this trio is in pole position should Duminy and Prince continue to fail in the West Indies....

    3) Elgar, another highly-touted prospect, did not do well at all. In the four-day games, he had scores of 48, 17 and 4.

    4) The Saffer centurions in the four-day games were Tsolikile (twice), Petersen and Kuhn.
    Still decent from Rilee especially in foreign conditions. Tsolekile is out of the question. If Boucher gets injured, Kuhn would take his place and Alviro has already cemented himself in the opening position with that century against India. Duminy and Prince will have to fight for 6. Elgar is poor if he's not facing anything other than medium-fast bowlers. I have more faith in Vandiar, Miller and Ingram to make an impression.

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    Why would Tsolekile be out of the question? if he's on the tour of Bangladesh, he msut be a prospect, surely. And if he scores more runs than his colleagues, surely he becomes an even better prospect?

    The Saffers win another one-dayer against the Bangladeshis, with van Zyl hitting a century, and Elgar an unbeaten half-century. Russuow and Ingram had disappointing scores with the bat, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shivfan View Post
    Why would Tsolekile be out of the question? if he's on the tour of Bangladesh, he msut be a prospect, surely. And if he scores more runs than his colleagues, surely he becomes an even better prospect?
    He's on tour as the wicket keeper. He won't be picked as a specialist batsman.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prince EWS View Post
    He's on tour as the wicket keeper. He won't be picked as a specialist batsman.
    Precisely. Kuhn has a better chance of getting picked as Boucher's replacement. Also Tsolekile's age is catching up to him.

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    Well, AB is a guy who knows how to keep wicket who's been picked as a batsman, and the way the Saffer A team has been batting, they might need him as a batsman....

    Windies A win by 81 runs.

    Windies A got 297.

    Thanks to a poster on caribbeancricket.com who watched part of the match on ATN Bangla, this was his assessment....

    Bravo (107)played real good, very low risk innings which was great, he seemed hungry 4 runs. Played some top quality shots as well as powerful ones.

    Nash (71) played good as well, very busy at the wicket, played with a better strike rate then 100.

    O Phillips (25) seemed good as well, but keeps playin 2 many big shots like against bangladesh in the tests.

    K Edwards (50 off 30 balls) played very well, timed the ball nicely, got shots all round the park which is nice 2 see n got Power.

    South Africa 214 all out, Windies A win by 81 runs

    Wickets:

    Baker 4
    Tonge 3
    Shillingford 2
    Khan 1

    And for the Saffers....

    Tsolekile topscored again with 42, Elgar, Miller and van Wyk got 30s, van Zyl and Ingram failed, and Russuow was omitted.

    Tshabalala was the best bowler with 2-46.

    Russuow has had scores of 8, 16, and 4 in the one-day series, so his omission is understandable....
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    Quote Originally Posted by shivfan View Post
    Well, AB is a guy who knows how to keep wicket who's been picked as a batsman, and the way the Saffer A team has been batting, they might need him as a batsman....
    Hmm yeah but AB was always a batsman who could keep; Tsolekile wouldn't even play franchise cricket if he wasn't a keeper. He's in good form but nothing more - South Africa can do a lot better than a 29 year old with a First Class average shy of 30. It'd be akin to Imran Khan top-scoring for West Indies A in a series - you wouldn't start talking about him as a specialist batting option would you?

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    It's been a really encouraging tri-series for West Indies cricket so far IMHO. Shillingford has been superb. I watched a bit of todays game on the web (very poor quality stream though) and I couldn't see anything wrong with his action and really can't see what all the fuss is about. Still, I will watch him live on the A tour of England and have a close look if he is selected. What is certain is that he turns the ball a considerable amount more than Miller or Benn.

    Pascal has been very effective with his pace whilst accurate medium fast bowlers Tonge and Baker came to the party today. Ideally we would want Khan to take more wickets but these are early days for him and his batting has been very effective in the death overs.

    The batting of Bravo, Nash and Edwards has been great also and it really is wonderful to see someone who has been hyped so much justifying it with innings like that. Edwards is showing all the signs of a viable option for the West Indies but like Mike, I would prefer to see him convert some 50's into hundreds before giving him the nod.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beamer View Post
    It's been a really encouraging tri-series for West Indies cricket so far IMHO. Shillingford has been superb. I watched a bit of todays game on the web (very poor quality stream though) and I couldn't see anything wrong with his action and really can't see what all the fuss is about. Still, I will watch him live on the A tour of England and have a close look if he is selected. What is certain is that he turns the ball a considerable amount more than Miller or Benn.
    He's definitely at the top of the pile as far as West Indian spinners at the moment. Has been excellent in practically every 'A' team match. Very encouraging. Whether or not he's international quality, he seems to have turned "a" corner in his career.
    Pascal has been very effective with his pace whilst accurate medium fast bowlers Tonge and Baker came to the party today. Ideally we would want Khan to take more wickets but these are early days for him and his batting has been very effective in the death overs.
    Very happy to see that Khan is applying himself with the bat, and that he's gotten a chance in OD cricket. I think that's where he's most likely to make his mark for West Indies.

    As for Pascal, if he can continue to improve he would be a handy asset. Particularly with Taylor and Edwards unlikely to have proper/effective careers from now on. Definitely has the pace, so this 'A' team experience is a big deal for him. Will see how he goes in England.

    Tonge and Baker still aren't particularly impressive. The latter may be something in OD cricket though, as he's capable of decent accuracy.
    The batting of Bravo, Nash and Edwards has been great also and it really is wonderful to see someone who has been hyped so much justifying it with innings like that. Edwards is showing all the signs of a viable option for the West Indies but like Mike, I would prefer to see him convert some 50's into hundreds before giving him the nod.
    Yep, DaBravo really coming along. Excellent. Have rated Edwards since he debuted for Barbados, but I think he needs to do a lot more to convince me that he has the mental application now to be worth a WI look-in.

    Finally, Nash moving from strength to strength and showing that he could yet have an ODI career. Could be a better bet than the often woeful Deonarine in the (ODI) middle order. That said, DaBravo may get the look-in there. Unfortunate that no genuine wicketkeeping option has come to light yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk View Post
    Unfortunate that no genuine wicketkeeping option has come to light yet.
    I am beginning to think we are doomed to having Ramdin performing at half his capabilities for the rest of his career as there are no viable alternatives in test cricket.

    I wonder why Devon Thomas has suddenly been disgarded from the A team? He scored a brilliant century inh his last A team innings so it is more than a little strange that he is currently nowhere to be seen.

    Btw Windies beat Bangladesh A by 6 wickets in the dead rubber match. Darren Bravo got yet another half century, Smith got 60 odd and Edwards continued his consistent performances with a solid 45.
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