Angus Fraser v Andrew Caddick v Darren Gough v Dominic Cork

slippy · 24-04-2010, 03:34 PM

Who was the better bowler out of these four.

zaremba · 24-04-2010, 05:00 PM

Tough one.

Caddick in the mood was the best of the lot, and world class: pace, lift, movement. But he was inconsistent and when his outswinger wasn't working he could be cannon fodder.

Gough was a real attack-leader, inspirational and skillful. He had good pace and many variations: an outswinger with the new ball, reverse swing with the old, and was always trying different things to get wickets. A few more mph and/or a few more inches of height and he could have been a top quality bowler.

Fraser by contrast was one-dimensional but very reliable. I thought that after his hip injury in 1990/91 (quite early in his career) he was never quiite as nippy as he had been up till then. A real handful when there was any uneven bounce. The most constent of the 4 IMO.

Cork was occasionally lethal in English conditions and a competitor of the highest order but probably the least good bowler of these 4.

Did this quartet ever play a Test together?

Anil · 24-04-2010, 05:18 PM

gough was easily the more consistently world-class of the four...

Goughy · 24-04-2010, 05:32 PM

Best career- Gough
Best leader of an attack- Gough
Most dangerous on his day- Caddick
Most reliable- Fraser
Most likely to make something from nothing- Fraser
Most outclassed by the others in this thread- Cork

Sir Alex · 24-04-2010, 07:32 PM

Fraser by a small but definite margin for me over Gough.

flibbertyjibber · 25-04-2010, 03:27 AM

I'll say Gough but you have to remember that Fraser had a career threatening injury and that when he came back he was a shadow of the bowler he was before.If he had remained injury free he may well be talked about as a great English bowler he was that good pre injury.

I know Gough was injury prone but i don't think it ruined his career as much as Gus as Gus lost at least a yard in pace when he came back.

Cork was just an English swing bowler who needed conditions in his favour,not a threat at all when they weren't.

Caddick had the ability but if he didn't get an early wicket his head went down too quickly.If he got one he was lethal.Arguably the most dangerous of the 4 but also the most erratic in terms of form.I see a lot of Caddick in Broad,capable of deadly matchwinning spells but too often not looking threatening.I guess players like that are useful as the opposition are always wary of the magic spell you know he is around the corner.

Uppercut · 25-04-2010, 04:11 AM

Without giving it much thought, my instinct says Gough. For some reason the thought of having a Darren Gough in a test team is just so, so much more appealing than the thought of having any of the others.

wfdu_ben91 · 25-04-2010, 04:41 AM

I dunno. Apparently Angus Fraser is better then Shane Bond.

fredfertang · 25-04-2010, 07:32 AM

At his all too brief peak Gus Fraser with some comfort but otherwise the Dazzler in the first innings and the Prince of Wales lookalike in the second

age_master · 25-04-2010, 03:41 PM

Gough > Caddick > Fraser >>>>> Cork.

GuyFromLancs · 26-04-2010, 02:08 AM

Gough and Caddick are difficult to split. They and then Fraser > Cork.

View Poll Results: Who was the better bowler out of these four.
Angus Fraser	6	21.43%
Andrew Caddick	2	7.14%
Darren Gough	19	67.86%
Dominic Cork	1	3.57%
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24-04-2010, 03:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
slippy School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: May 2009 Location: london Posts: 97	Angus Fraser v Andrew Caddick v Darren Gough v Dominic Cork Who was the better bowler out of these four.

24-04-2010, 05:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Goughy International Coach Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: All Over Posts: 14,638	Best career- Gough Best leader of an attack- Gough Most dangerous on his day- Caddick Most reliable- Fraser Most likely to make something from nothing- Fraser Most outclassed by the others in this thread- Cork __________________ If I only just posted the above post, please wait 5 mins before replying as there is bound to be edits West Robham Rabid Wolves Caedere lemma quod eat lemma Happy Birthday! (easier than using Birthday threads) Email and MSN- Goughy at cricketmail dot net

25-04-2010, 03:27 AM	#6 (permalink)
flibbertyjibber Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: England Posts: 7,933	I'll say Gough but you have to remember that Fraser had a career threatening injury and that when he came back he was a shadow of the bowler he was before.If he had remained injury free he may well be talked about as a great English bowler he was that good pre injury. I know Gough was injury prone but i don't think it ruined his career as much as Gus as Gus lost at least a yard in pace when he came back. Cork was just an English swing bowler who needed conditions in his favour,not a threat at all when they weren't. Caddick had the ability but if he didn't get an early wicket his head went down too quickly.If he got one he was lethal.Arguably the most dangerous of the 4 but also the most erratic in terms of form.I see a lot of Caddick in Broad,capable of deadly matchwinning spells but too often not looking threatening.I guess players like that are useful as the opposition are always wary of the magic spell you know he is around the corner. Last edited by flibbertyjibber; 25-04-2010 at 03:31 AM.

25-04-2010, 03:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
age_master Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia Posts: 15,777	Gough > Caddick > Fraser >>>>> Cork. __________________ Member of CW Green Kerry O'Keefe - Worlds funniest Commentator

24-04-2010, 05:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
zaremba Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: chez les Ashes Posts: 8,726	Tough one. Caddick in the mood was the best of the lot, and world class: pace, lift, movement. But he was inconsistent and when his outswinger wasn't working he could be cannon fodder. Gough was a real attack-leader, inspirational and skillful. He had good pace and many variations: an outswinger with the new ball, reverse swing with the old, and was always trying different things to get wickets. A few more mph and/or a few more inches of height and he could have been a top quality bowler. Fraser by contrast was one-dimensional but very reliable. I thought that after his hip injury in 1990/91 (quite early in his career) he was never quiite as nippy as he had been up till then. A real handful when there was any uneven bounce. The most constent of the 4 IMO. Cork was occasionally lethal in English conditions and a competitor of the highest order but probably the least good bowler of these 4. Did this quartet ever play a Test together?

24-04-2010, 07:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sir Alex Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nowhere Posts: 4,793	Fraser by a small but definite margin for me over Gough.

25-04-2010, 04:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
wfdu_ben91 International 12th Man Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Australia Posts: 1,613	I dunno. Apparently Angus Fraser is better then Shane Bond.

25-04-2010, 07:32 AM	#9 (permalink)
fredfertang Cricket Web Staff Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: high dudgeon Posts: 9,717	At his all too brief peak Gus Fraser with some comfort but otherwise the Dazzler in the first innings and the Prince of Wales lookalike in the second

26-04-2010, 02:08 AM	#11 (permalink)
GuyFromLancs U19 Debutant Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Lancashire Posts: 327	Gough and Caddick are difficult to split. They and then Fraser > Cork. __________________ Keeping it real

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