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  • Subcontinent

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Thread: Aus&WI combined XI vs Subcontient XI vs Rest Of The World XI

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    Aus&WI combined XI vs Subcontient XI vs Rest Of The World XI

    For alltime XI's, what's your line ups and who do you think is the strongest out of the 3 sides?

    For mine:

    ALLTIME COMBINED AUSTRALIA & WEST INDIES XI

    Gordon Greenidge
    Matthew Hayden
    Sir Donald Bradman
    Sir Vivian Richards
    Sir Garfield Sobers
    Ricky Ponting
    Adam Gilchrist (wk)
    Malcolm Marshall
    Shane Warne (c)
    Curtly Ambrose
    Glenn McGrath

    ALLTIME SUBCONTINENT XI

    Sunil Gavaskar
    Virender Sehwag
    Rahul Dravid
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Javed Miandad
    Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
    Imran Khan
    Wasim Akram
    Anil Kumble
    Waqar Younis
    Muttiah Muralitharan

    ALLTIME REST OF THE WORLD XI (including unselected players from Windies, Australia & Subcontient)

    Sir Jack Hobbs
    Sir Leonard Hutton
    Walter Hammond
    Graeme Pollock
    Brian Lara
    Jacques Kallis
    Keith Miller
    Alan Knott (wk)
    Sir Richard Hadlee
    Joel Garner
    Dennis Lillee

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    For me, more like:

    Gordon Greenidge
    Matthew Hayden
    Sir Donald Bradman
    Sir Vivian Richards
    Keith Miller
    Sir Garfield Sobers
    Adam Gilchrist (wk)
    Malcolm Marshall
    Shane Warne (c)
    Dennis Lillee
    Glenn McGrath
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    I'd make a few changes, which are bolded.

    Australian/WI:
    Hayden
    Greenidge
    Bradman
    Richards
    George Headley
    Sobers
    Keith Miller
    Gilchrist
    Marshall
    Warne
    Dennis Lillee

    Subcontinent:
    Gavaskar
    Sehwag
    Dravid
    Tendulkar
    Miandad
    Sangakkara
    Imran Khan
    Kapil Dev
    Wasim Akram
    Kumble
    Muralitharan

    Best of the rest:
    WG Grace
    Hobbs
    Pollock
    Hammond
    Lara
    Kallis
    Andy Flower
    Ian Botham or O'Reilly/Grimmett
    Hadlee
    Ambrose
    SF Barnes

    Considered a spinner for the rest team but couldn't go past a complete pace attack.
    Last edited by Somerset; 15-04-2010 at 01:54 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfdu_ben91 View Post
    For alltime XI's, what's your line ups and who do you think is the strongest out of the 3 sides?

    For mine:

    ALLTIME COMBINED AUSTRALIA & WEST INDIES XI

    Gordon Greenidge
    Matthew Hayden
    Sir Donald Bradman
    Sir Vivian Richards
    Sir Garfield Sobers
    Ricky Ponting
    Adam Gilchrist (wk)
    Malcolm Marshall
    Shane Warne (c)
    Curtly Ambrose
    Glenn McGrath

    ALLTIME SUBCONTINENT XI

    Sunil Gavaskar
    Virender Sehwag
    Rahul Dravid
    Sachin Tendulkar
    Javed Miandad
    Kumar Sangakkara (wk)
    Imran Khan
    Wasim Akram
    Anil Kumble
    Waqar Younis
    Muttiah Muralitharan

    ALLTIME REST OF THE WORLD XI (including unselected players from Windies, Australia & Subcontient)

    Sir Jack Hobbs
    Sir Leonard Hutton
    Walter Hammond
    Graeme Pollock
    Brian Lara
    Jacques Kallis
    Keith Miller
    Alan Knott (wk)
    Sir Richard Hadlee
    Joel Garner
    Dennis Lillee
    Hayden better than Hobbs? WTF


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    Quote Originally Posted by zinzan12 View Post
    Hayden better than Hobbs? WTF
    Hobbs is English so its a bit difficult for him to qualify for the Australian/WI side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zinzan12 View Post
    Hayden better than Hobbs? WTF
    Um, Hobbs and all the English were going to have to be part of the ROW XI the whole time? He hasn't picked Hayden ahead of Hobbs.

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    I think the 3rd team is kinda more balanced than all of the rest.
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    Lack of a spinner?

    And who would be next in line for the spinner's spot in that side? Laker? Grimmett? Chandra? Gupte?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikki View Post
    For me, more like:

    Gordon Greenidge
    Matthew Hayden
    Sir Donald Bradman
    Sir Vivian Richards
    Keith Miller
    Sir Garfield Sobers
    Adam Gilchrist (wk)
    Malcolm Marshall
    Shane Warne (c)
    Dennis Lillee
    Glenn McGrath

    Hayden
    Ponting
    Bradman
    Richards
    Sobers
    Headley
    A Gilchrist
    S Warne
    M Marshall
    J Garner
    G McGrath

    Would have Ponting in the team even if he had to open. Ambrose would be the reserve quick and Keith Miller could come in as an all rounder if desired. O'Reilly the the backup spinner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    Um, Hobbs and all the English were going to have to be part of the ROW XI the whole time? He hasn't picked Hayden ahead of Hobbs.
    Right you are

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    A team of
    Simpson
    Morris
    Bradman
    Richards
    Chappell
    Sobers
    Gilchrist
    Warne
    Marshall
    Ambrose
    Lillee/McGrath

    Would be any other XI you cared to assemble from anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    Lack of a spinner?

    And who would be next in line for the spinner's spot in that side? Laker? Grimmett? Chandra? Gupte?
    O'Reilly.

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    Why combine the West Indies and Australia? Very strong anyway. England are also strong enough to make an alltime XI lone.

    Eng XI
    WI XI
    Aus XI
    Subcont XI
    ROW XI
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    Quote Originally Posted by vic_orthdox View Post
    Um, Hobbs and all the English were going to have to be part of the ROW XI the whole time? He hasn't picked Hayden ahead of Hobbs.
    It's Ben, so I reckon it's pretty safe to assume that he would pick Hayden ahead of Hobbs if given the option, even if he didn't here.

    My ROW team would be:

    Sir Jack Hobbs
    Barry Richards
    Walter Hammond
    Graeme Pollock
    Brian Lara
    Keith Miller
    Alan Knott
    Sir Richard Hadlee
    Joel Garner
    Glenn McGrath
    Subhash Gupte

    and then I'd agree with Matt's Aus/WI team:

    Bob Simpson
    Arthur Morris
    Sir Donald Bradman
    Sir Vivian Richards
    Greg Chappell
    Sir Garfield Sobers
    Adam Gilchrist
    Shane Warne
    Malcolm Marshall
    Curtley Ambrose
    Dennis Lillee

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    Yeah, there's not a lot of logic to it. Previously, when we've rated each countries all-time XIs, WI and Aus were considered clearly the two best. That said, it's his thing, so whatever he wants.

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