Aus&WI combined XI vs Subcontient XI vs Rest Of The World XI

[wfdu_ben91]

Bradman was a pretty successful captain actually - massive winning percentage. In a team of massive stars and personalities, his status as clearly the best player would also reinforce him status. Warne, IMO, has the brains to be a good on-field captain, but is too immature a person to be a full time captain.

Successful because of his batting.

 

[GotSpin]

Bradman was a pretty successful captain actually - massive winning percentage. In a team of massive stars and personalities, his status as clearly the best player would also reinforce him status. Warne, IMO, has the brains to be a good on-field captain, but is too immature a person to be a full time captain.

He was too immature a person off the field. Can't see that being reflected on the field. That being said, Warne was never proven either.

 

[Matt79]

Onfield stuff is only one part of a captain's role. If Warne ever had been made captain, I'm pretty certain we would have had disaffected players, not to mention him having to resign in disgrace when he embarrassed himself again.

 

[Matt79]

Successful because of his batting.

Well happily, he's in this team as well, so his batting will help him here as well. That argument can be made for every player in this team - Warne's done well when he's captained because he's had Warne in his team. Bradman was a meticulous planner, he ensured that people stuck to the plan, and he was ruthless on the field.

 

[gwo]

Successful because of his batting.

Bradman as captain.
24 matches
15 wins, 3 losses, 6 draws
Avg 101.51
Win% of 62.5%

source: All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com

Bradman as non captain (sans bodyline)
24 matches
14 wins, 6 losses, 4 draws
Avg 107.90
Win% of 58.3%

All-round records | Test matches | Cricinfo Statsguru | Cricinfo.com

Matches played in that era without Bradman
8 matches
5 wins, 2 losses, 1 draw
Win% of 62.5%

Cricinfo.com Statsguru - Australia - Test matches - Team analysis


Bradman was marginally better as a captain than his Australian contemporaries.

 

[The Sean]

Of the 8 Tests Bradman didn't play, 6 of them were against South Africa and New Zealand - and they were the five wins and a draw. The two games played without Bradman against England were the two losses.

 

[stephen]

Certainly Warne has proven his captaincy/leadership abilities with the Rhajistan Royals.

 

[Matt79]

But I don't think you can compare leading a novelty franchise who get together for 6 weeks a year with captaining a national team.

 

[Athlai]

Yes T20 domestic leagues = Tests.

 

[Spark]

Aus/WI on the strength of their batting mostly. Any team with Bradman is going to be obscenely profilgate but one with Ponting at six...

 

[miscer]

combining australia and west indies is ridiculous. brb combing the two strongest sides ever historically.

If anything you might get away with australia/west indies vs everyone else but even then it would be hard.

You have to put these two teams against each other.

 

[smash84]

Awta

 

[MrIncredible]

IMO Oz are always goin to have the best all time team period due to one man and one man only:

Bradman. No one else is as close to being a game-changer like he is. Besides him, the only other

player I could think of who would e somewhat of a game changer is maybe Adam Gilchrist but lo and

behold he's Australian too!!

 

[smash84]

IMO Oz are always goin to have the best all time team period due to one man and one man only:

Bradman. No one else is as close to being a game-changer like he is. Besides him, the only other

player I could think of who would e somewhat of a game changer is maybe Adam Gilchrist but lo and

behold he's Australian too!!

Disagree. AT WI XI would give tough competition.

 

[Prince EWS]

combining australia and west indies is ridiculous. brb combing the two strongest sides ever historically.

If anything you might get away with australia/west indies vs everyone else but even then it would be hard.

You have to put these two teams against each other.

Yeah, if you're gonna combine all-time teams, I propose you just do it all by continents.

Oceania (Australia + New Zealand)
Asia (India + Sri Lanka + Pakistan + Bangladesh)
Africa (South Africa + Zimbabwe)
Europe (England)
Americas (West Indies + Bart King )

Probably the easiest way to put everyone into five reasonably even groups. Of course if you tried to do it with just modern players, the Americas would get an almighty towelling.

 

[vcs]

Poor England.. I reckon they should be combined with SA and Zimbabwe in interests of fairness (and ease of poaching ).

 

[Prince EWS]

Poor England.. I reckon they should be combined with SA and Zimbabwe in interests of fairness (and ease of poaching ).

England's ATXI is pretty awesome though. Zimbabwe and New Zealand are only supplying a player or two each anyway.

 

[bagapath]

combined Aus & WI all time XI

trumper
greenidge
bradman *
richards
lara
sobers
gilchrist +
marshall
warne
lillee
mcgrath

sub continental XI

gavaskar
sehwag
dravid
tendulkar
miandad
sangakara +
imran *
kapil
akram
murali
waqar

combined rest of the world XI

hutton *
hobbs
hammond
g.pollock
kallis
flower +
botham
hadlee
barnes
laker
donald

 

[Howe_zat]

Aus & WI own it to a ridiculous extent. Either side on their own would be a tough ask for a World XI to take on.

Yeah, if you're gonna combine all-time teams, I propose you just do it all by continents.

Oceania (Australia + New Zealand)
Asia (India + Sri Lanka + Pakistan + Bangladesh)
Africa (South Africa + Zimbabwe)
Europe (England)
Americas (West Indies + Bart King )

Probably the easiest way to put everyone into five reasonably even groups. Of course if you tried to do it with just modern players, the Americas would get an almighty towelling.

More interesting.

Oceania:

Trumper, Turner, Bradman, Chappell, Border, Gilchrist, Miller, Hadlee, Warne, O' Reilly, Lillee, 12th man Waugh

Asia:

Gavaskar, Hanif Mohammad, Dravid, Tendulkar, Miandad, Sangakkara, Imran Khan, Kapil Dev, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Muralitharan, 12th man Jayasuriya

Africa:

Richards, Smith, Kallis, Pollock, Nourse, Flower, Proctor, Pollock, Pollock, Tayfield, Donald, 12th man Faulkner

England and WI teams as they are, though a WI outfit much tougher to pick. Real source of discussion is the Asian team.

Bagapath - I'd have G. Pollock over Crowe in your RoW XI, batting at five, Hammond at three.

 

[smash84]

combined Aus & WI all time XI

trumper
greenidge
bradman *
richards
lara
sobers
gilchrist +
marshall
warne
lillee
mcgrath

sub continental XI

gavaskar
sehwag
dravid
tendulkar
miandad
sangakara +
imran *
kapil
akram
murali
waqar

combined rest of the world XI

hutton *
hobbs
m.crowe
kallis
hammond
flower +
botham
hadlee
barnes
laker
donald

The match between the subcontinent XI and oceania XI would be awesome. Quite evenly matches IMO

Aus & WI own it to a ridiculous extent. Either side on their own would be a tough ask for a World XI to take on.



More interesting.

Oceania:

Trumper, Turner, Bradman, Chappell, Border, Gilchrist, Miller, Hadlee, Warne, O' Reilly, Lillee, 12th man Waugh

Asia:

Gavaskar, Hanif Mohammad, Dravid, Tendulkar, Miandad, Sangakkara, Imran Khan, Kapil Dev, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Muralitharan, 12th man Jayasuriya

Africa:

Richards, Smith, Kallis, Pollock, Nourse, Flower, Proctor, Pollock, Pollock, Tayfield, Donald, 12th man Faulkner

England and WI teams as they are, though a WI outfit much tougher to pick. Real source of discussion is the Asian team.

Bagapath - I'd have G. Pollock over Crowe in your RoW XI, batting at five, Hammond at three.

Great teams