Can Jamaica become a cricketing nation by itself ?

[Ilovecric]

The Jamaican team is head and shoulders above all other teams in the carib in the four day format and recently beat Ireland comfortably in a 50 overs game. Ireland which is suppose to be the best team outside the top 8.

[Athlai]

Originally Posted by Ilovecric

The Jamaican team is head and shoulders above all other teams in the carib in the four day format and recently beat Ireland comfortably in a 50 overs game. Ireland which is suppose to be the best team outside the top 8.

Well outside the top you'd have to go for Bangladesh and Zimbabwe before Ireland...

But anyway I hope not because the West Indies would become a terrible cricket team, and Jamaica would still be right at the bottom of the Test nations.

[Johnners]

In doing so it'd only make the West Indies weaker, and Jamaica would be at the bottom of the test playing nations, meaning it would really be a pointless exercise, and really not one made in the best interests of cricket in the Caribbean , let alone worldwidet.

[Ilovecric]

Originally Posted by Clapo

In doing so it'd only make the West Indies weaker, and Jamaica would be at the bottom of the test playing nations, meaning it would really be a pointless exercise, and really not one made in the best interests of cricket in the Caribbean , let alone worldwidet.

I'm quite sure Jamaica would be doing alot better than WI is doing right now.

But what does it say for ireland ?

Jamaica will play Canada soon, so we will see how that goes.

They dominated Ireland in a threeday game aswell.

[Athlai]

It says Ireland would be a mediocre FC team in most countries.

[Johnners]

Originally Posted by Ilovecric

I'm quite sure Jamaica would be doing alot better than WI is doing right now.

But what does it say for ireland ?

Jamaica will play Canada soon, so we will see how that goes.

They dominated Ireland in a threeday game aswell.

I'm struggling to believe a Jamaican team, that wouldn't (to my knowledge) contain Chanderpaul, Bravo, Ramdin, Roach, Barath, Pollard or Deonarine could be more competitive than a West Indian team that has those players available, plus the best of the Jamaican team.

What does it say for Ireland? That they aren't a test team, and would struggle to be a force in domestic cricket in most countries.

[Matt79]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Tasmania would touch up Ireland, but that doesn't make it a good idea for Tassie to compete separately from the rest of Australia.

[G.I.Joe]

What is up with the WI nations/fans deciding they'd make good teams by themselves? Last year it was T&T, now Jamaica. To be blunt - you guys don't have a great team even collectively as the WI as of now, splitting up isn't the best idea.

[bagapath]

it will create two more minnows. jamaica and rest of west indies

[age_master]

The WI combined aren't a particularly big force in cricket at the moment. Why would you want to weaken that?

[Burgey]

More a question of infrastructure than short tem playing strength isn't it? As I understand things the entire WI struggles in that regard with coaching, lack of an academy etc. Could Jamaica afford and then administer all this by itself?

[WindieWeathers]

Originally Posted by Ilovecric

The Jamaican team is head and shoulders above all other teams in the carib in the four day format and recently beat Ireland comfortably in a 50 overs game. Ireland which is suppose to be the best team outside the top 8.

Erm no they aren't , T&T man for man are just as strong imo, maybe even stronger if they had their full team out, lets remember they could call upon...

Barath
Darren Bravo
Dwayne Bravo
Pollard
Rampaul
Ramdin
Imran Khan (the best spinner in the region right now)
Gabriel (a young pacer causing a lot of excitement in the Caribbean)
Simmons

So they've got many players with international experience, and as we saw in the champions league they can perform when they are in the mood.

[WindieWeathers]

Originally Posted by age_master

The WI combined aren't a particularly big force in cricket at the moment.

With the amount of talent we've got coming through right now believe me that will change very soon.

[Ilovecric]

Originally Posted by Clapo

I'm struggling to believe a Jamaican team, that wouldn't (to my knowledge) contain Chanderpaul, Bravo, Ramdin, Roach, Barath, Pollard or Deonarine could be more competitive than a West Indian team that has those players available, plus the best of the Jamaican team.

What does it say for Ireland? That they aren't a test team, and would struggle to be a force in domestic cricket in most countries.

It's not talent WI isn't doing good today, it's the management team of Jamaica. Jamaica's youth programs are the best in the region and thats why Jamaica's national cricket team has been winning everything in the last 3 seasons of domestic cricket. Maybe the in the past it was the best idea to keep the combined Islands set-up in place but these days that isn't the best option. Especially when it comes to Jamaica.

[Hurricane]

Originally Posted by Ilovecric

It's not talent WI isn't doing good today, it's the management team of Jamaica. Jamaica's youth programs are the best in the region and thats why Jamaica's national cricket team has been winning everything in the last 3 seasons of domestic cricket. Maybe the in the past it was the best idea to keep the combined Islands set-up in place but these days that isn't the best option. Especially when it comes to Jamaica.

Explain with a reasoned argument.