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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Disagree on Clarke, think he is one hell of a good player these days and just as deserving as other players averaging around 50 these days.
    Agree, Clarke has the style, temperment, technique and determination to become one of the batting greats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pothas View Post
    Disagree on Clarke, think he is one hell of a good player these days and just as deserving as other players averaging around 50 these days.
    Yeah, unfortunately he got that average coming in after Hayden, Ponting and Hussey had done all of the hard work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfdu_ben91 View Post
    Yeah, unfortunately he got that average coming in after Hayden, Ponting and Hussey had done all of the hard work.
    What? Hasn't his peak come in the last few years when Hayden has retired, and Ponting and Hussey have appeared to be mere mortals?
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    Pre 08
    Hayden 7742 @ 55.69
    Ponting 7423 @ 64.54
    Hussey 1934 @ 80.58
    Clarke 1821 @ 46.69

    Post 08
    Clarke 2463 @ 55.97
    Ponting 2385 @ 45.86
    Hussey 1889 @ 38.55
    Hayden 622 @ 32.73

    Yep Clarke has been certainly benefitting a great deal from the others doing all the hard work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    What? Hasn't his peak come in the last few years when Hayden has retired, and Ponting and Hussey have appeared to be mere mortals?
    He was averaging 35 until he was brought back in the Australian side at it's peak in the Ashes 2006/07 and he got a few scores (after coming in at 4/300), which buffed his average up and it continued to buff up in the next few series he played where he came in after either 2 of Hayden, Ponting and Hussey had scored heavily.

    By the time Hayden retired, Clarke was averaging 49 and almost touching 50. He then had a poor series in South Africa before having a good (but massively overrated - most people quote it as Clarke's coming of age series) series against England in England, but yet most people overlook the fact that all of England's bowlers have career bowling averages in the mid 30's.

    His a good batsman, good enough to average mid-low 40's, but definately not 50+. I'm not sold yet, I think Watson looks more likely to become the next great Australian batsman, followed by Hughes.

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    What more does Sehwag have to do to "deserve" his average? He's the closest thing to a "match-winning batsman" that you can get in world cricket...

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    What more does Sehwag have to do to "deserve" his average? He's the closest thing to a "match-winning batsman" that you can get in world cricket...
    Average more then 20 in seam-friendly conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfdu_ben91 View Post
    Average more then 20 in seam-friendly conditions.
    He has scored centuries in all Test-playing nations bar NZ, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. Face it, seam-friendly conditions aren't all that common these days, and he is a product of his times. He's certainly no worse than Hayden in seam-friendly conditions anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vcs View Post
    He has scored centuries in all Test-playing nations bar NZ, Zimbabwe and Bangladesh. Face it, seam-friendly conditions aren't all that common these days, and he is a product of his times. He's certainly no worse than Hayden in seam-friendly conditions anyway.
    He is worse then Hayden in seaming conditions, not by a massive amount, but still by a noticable and considerate amount. Notice how before he had this fabulous run, he wasn't making runs outside the subcontient but as soon as he went back to the subcontient he was the king and conquered of all. Most believed that until that run, Gambhir was already a better Opener then Sehwag, even Sehwag himself said it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wfdu_ben91 View Post
    Matthew Hayden - Should be slightly higher (53-54 instead of 50)
    Kevin Pietersen - Should be allot higher (55-56 instead of 48-49)
    Mahela Jayawardene - Should be allot lower (low 40's instead of mid 50's)
    Mark Waugh - Should be higher (mid-high 40's instead of low 40's)
    Mohammad Yousuf - Should be allot lower (mid-low 40's instead of mid 50's)
    Virender Sehwag - Should be slightly lower (mid 40's, not 50+)
    Michael Slater - Should be slightly higher (atleast in the mid 40's)
    Michael Clarke - Should be slightly lower (not a 50+ average batsman imo)
    AB de Villiers - Should be allot higher (Good enough to average 50+)
    Dean Jones - Should be higher (On footage, his one of the best bats out of the 80s era .. deserves to average 50+)
    Yeah, Aussies should score higher, Asians should ne lower. Great logic. Doesn't need that much of typing if you put it that wat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wfdu_ben91 View Post
    Average more then 20 in seam-friendly conditions.
    And some of the greats should average 30+ in spin friendly conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Migara View Post
    And some of the greats should average 30+ in spin friendly conditions.
    You mean like how Ponting averages 50+ in Sri Lanka?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Migara View Post
    Yeah, Aussies should score higher, Asians should ne lower. Great logic. Doesn't need that much of typing if you put it that wat.
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