Mahmudullah?

stephen · 18-02-2010, 09:06 PM

Mahmudullah, how good is this kid? Is he really the Next Big Thing(TM) or is he just another hack who's average will drop soon?

Sir Alex · 18-02-2010, 09:13 PM

He is a genuine batsman somehow used as a spinner and made to bat at No.8 by those guys of infinite wisdom in Bangla setup.

stephen · 18-02-2010, 09:15 PM

I'd rate him higher, but all of his innings come in games with Bangladesh

Athlai · 18-02-2010, 09:35 PM

He can get some serious turn when conditions suit and is a decent batsman. Rate him pretty highly but Rahim and Shakib are better bats.

Black_Warrior · 19-02-2010, 12:19 AM

I dont think the think tank of Bangladesh really understand his role as a player. He is not a bowler who can bat..I have no clue why he bats at 8. He is a proper batsman who can bowl a bit of off spin..
He should be batting at 4 or 5 as a batsman, and Ashraful and Aftab should be dropped..that would actually give them an option of playing an extra spinner like Enamul or Razzak instead of misusing Mahmudullah as a spinner!
As for his batting..I have high hopes..I think he can perform much better when its 50/2 rather than 88/5.

_Ed_ · 19-02-2010, 12:49 AM

Looked all class to me. Only Shakib impressed me more in the Bangladesh side in this tour.

Gowza · 19-02-2010, 01:12 AM

don't think riyad will move up the order in the next series, siddons seems to like him down the order if you go by the quotes in the cricinfo article.

fishyguy · 19-02-2010, 02:35 AM

Definitely the batsman with the best temperament in the side and looks good technically much better than the others. Also seems just mentally more relaxed than the others. Its funny how the first time I saw him he came into the side as a bowler and dismissed him as an absolute joke and then all of a sudden in the India tour to BD he started getting runs. BD so far have 4 batsman who can play Mahmudullah, Tamim, Shakib and Mushfiq. The rest Keyes,Junaid just not good enough and Aftab and Ashraful who used to be their best players are now their worst which is a shame cuz if Aftab and Ashraful who initially showed some promise were able to grow as players BD could have been a lot better. They actually owe a tremendous amount to Mahmudullah who has actually dug BD out of potentially humiliating minnow like scores and performances against both India and NZ.

Sir Alex · 19-02-2010, 02:45 AM

I think the top 7 should be liek this for Bangladesh

Tamim Iqbal
Shahriar Nafees
Rajin Saleh
Shakib Al Hasan
Mamudullah
Raqibul Hasan
Mushfiqur Rahim

Ashraful and Aftab must go.

Migara · 19-02-2010, 03:01 AM

I would prefer

Iqbal
Nafees
Saleh
Mushfiqur
Mahmadullah
Raqibul
Shakib

order.

jeevan · 19-02-2010, 07:21 AM

If Shakib,Rahim, Mahmadullah are the best middle order bats in BD (certainly seems that way) then shouldnt they play 3-4-5 or 4-5-6.

As long as the WK is not opening after crouching for a long time - does it matter that these folks also have major bowling & Wk duties?

This guy seems like the best regular #8 in tests atm, yet he's playing in a side with (almost) the worst #2, #3, #4, #6 (think Shakib comes at #5, Rahim at #7).

Migara · 19-02-2010, 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeevan

If Shakib,Rahim, Mahmadullah are the best middle order bats in BD (certainly seems that way) then shouldnt they play 3-4-5 or 4-5-6.

As long as the WK is not opening after crouching for a long time - does it matter that these folks also have major bowling & Wk duties?

This guy seems like the best regular #8 in tests atm, yet he's playing in a side with (almost) the worst #2, #3, #4, #6 (think Shakib comes at #5, Rahim at #7).

That's why they need a stone waller like Saleh at #3. If he hands out there for few hours it will be beneficial even if he does not score many.

Prince EWS · 19-02-2010, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Migara

I would prefer

Iqbal
Nafees
Saleh
Mushfiqur
Mahmadullah
Raqibul
Shakib

order.

Yeah, AWTA strongly.

Jungle Jumbo · 19-02-2010, 10:53 AM

Strange case really. Was a bit-part player for Dhaka for a few seasons in one-day cricket, batting at six or seven and then getting through a few economical overs without ever setting the world alight.

Then last year he made ton after ton, now he should be batting top five.

Tamim, Nafees, Raqib, Rahim, Mahmud, Shakib, plus another bat at number seven. Or maybe Rajin Saleh up nearer the top, probably at three. We seem to have plenty of number six batsmen, but no-one for three or four.

thierry henry · 19-02-2010, 05:00 PM

He *looks* like he should be an effective bowler too. As I said in the tour thread, he certainly looks more threatening than Naeem with the ball, but his record suggests otherwise.

Can certainly bat a bit anyway. I mentioned in the tour thread that he should move up the order and Aftab and Ashraful should be dropped, but PEWS made a good argument for stacking the batting. However, starting to revisit my original line of thought now....even if it means that they just bat Ashraful at 8 instead of picking another bowler

18-02-2010, 09:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
stephen International Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: aus Posts: 3,607	Mahmudullah? Mahmudullah, how good is this kid? Is he really the Next Big Thing(TM) or is he just another hack who's average will drop soon?

19-02-2010, 03:01 AM	#10 (permalink)
Migara International Captain Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Colombo, SL Posts: 5,175	I would prefer Iqbal Nafees Saleh Mushfiqur Mahmadullah Raqibul Shakib order. __________________ Diuretics are used to look good at TV shows I played for 20 years in the Lankan team, I did not have any problems as a Tamil - Muralidaran

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18-02-2010, 09:13 PM	#2 (permalink)
Sir Alex Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nowhere Posts: 4,793	He is a genuine batsman somehow used as a spinner and made to bat at No.8 by those guys of infinite wisdom in Bangla setup.

18-02-2010, 09:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
stephen International Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: aus Posts: 3,607	I'd rate him higher, but all of his innings come in games with Bangladesh

19-02-2010, 12:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
Black_Warrior International Debutant Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: TEF Posts: 2,447	I dont think the think tank of Bangladesh really understand his role as a player. He is not a bowler who can bat..I have no clue why he bats at 8. He is a proper batsman who can bowl a bit of off spin.. He should be batting at 4 or 5 as a batsman, and Ashraful and Aftab should be dropped..that would actually give them an option of playing an extra spinner like Enamul or Razzak instead of misusing Mahmudullah as a spinner! As for his batting..I have high hopes..I think he can perform much better when its 50/2 rather than 88/5.

19-02-2010, 12:49 AM	#6 (permalink)
_Ed_ Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Auckland, Aotearoa Posts: 19,107	Looked all class to me. Only Shakib impressed me more in the Bangladesh side in this tour.

19-02-2010, 01:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
Gowza School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Australia Posts: 99	don't think riyad will move up the order in the next series, siddons seems to like him down the order if you go by the quotes in the cricinfo article.

19-02-2010, 02:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
fishyguy School Boy/Girl Captain Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 148	Definitely the batsman with the best temperament in the side and looks good technically much better than the others. Also seems just mentally more relaxed than the others. Its funny how the first time I saw him he came into the side as a bowler and dismissed him as an absolute joke and then all of a sudden in the India tour to BD he started getting runs. BD so far have 4 batsman who can play Mahmudullah, Tamim, Shakib and Mushfiq. The rest Keyes,Junaid just not good enough and Aftab and Ashraful who used to be their best players are now their worst which is a shame cuz if Aftab and Ashraful who initially showed some promise were able to grow as players BD could have been a lot better. They actually owe a tremendous amount to Mahmudullah who has actually dug BD out of potentially humiliating minnow like scores and performances against both India and NZ.

19-02-2010, 02:45 AM	#9 (permalink)
Sir Alex Banned Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Nowhere Posts: 4,793	I think the top 7 should be liek this for Bangladesh Tamim Iqbal Shahriar Nafees Rajin Saleh Shakib Al Hasan Mamudullah Raqibul Hasan Mushfiqur Rahim Ashraful and Aftab must go.

19-02-2010, 07:21 AM	#11 (permalink)
jeevan International 12th Man Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Jose CA Posts: 1,677	If Shakib,Rahim, Mahmadullah are the best middle order bats in BD (certainly seems that way) then shouldnt they play 3-4-5 or 4-5-6. As long as the WK is not opening after crouching for a long time - does it matter that these folks also have major bowling & Wk duties? This guy seems like the best regular #8 in tests atm, yet he's playing in a side with (almost) the worst #2, #3, #4, #6 (think Shakib comes at #5, Rahim at #7).

19-02-2010, 10:53 AM	#14 (permalink)
Jungle Jumbo International Vice-Captain Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: England Posts: 4,898	Strange case really. Was a bit-part player for Dhaka for a few seasons in one-day cricket, batting at six or seven and then getting through a few economical overs without ever setting the world alight. Then last year he made ton after ton, now he should be batting top five. Tamim, Nafees, Raqib, Rahim, Mahmud, Shakib, plus another bat at number seven. Or maybe Rajin Saleh up nearer the top, probably at three. We seem to have plenty of number six batsmen, but no-one for three or four.

19-02-2010, 05:00 PM	#15 (permalink)
thierry henry International Captain Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 5,032	He looks like he should be an effective bowler too. As I said in the tour thread, he certainly looks more threatening than Naeem with the ball, but his record suggests otherwise. Can certainly bat a bit anyway. I mentioned in the tour thread that he should move up the order and Aftab and Ashraful should be dropped, but PEWS made a good argument for stacking the batting. However, starting to revisit my original line of thought now....even if it means that they just bat Ashraful at 8 instead of picking another bowler

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