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    Lets discuss Pak dressing room Issues..

    I was watching Cricinfo's top five innings of the year... Ian chapple was discussing Umar Akmal with two of my favorite commentators Harsha and Sanjay.. He said that Umar seemed districted during the Aus tour whether it was because of his recent success or what was going on in Pakistani dressing room.. If it was the issues srouneding the dressing room.. he better get used to it..

    This kind of striked me.. he is soo right.. we have seen time after time Pakistani players geting involved in grouping, conflicts and altraction with each other..not to forget the aligations of match fixing, Ball temparing and other indiciplinary actions that they get involve... it seems like the players change years after years but these controversial issues continue to exist..at times it gets worse as it is now..

    Watching Aamir Sohail talking about it during a Geo T.V show.. he dated this groupism and dressing room politics back to 93/94 when players first revolted against Javid Maindad who was captaining pakistan.. Pakistan cricket board reacted by making Wasim Akram the captain.. he said all of sudden 8 to 9 players in the team saw themselves as a captain of the team.. later they revolted against Wasim Akram as well.. Issues like this continued to effect the pakistani team during the 90s. during NZ tour players like Aamir sohail, Rashid Latif and Aaqib javid came out and accused wasim, Salim Malik, Ijaz ahmad of Match fixing.. Waqar younis joined them later dividing the team in to two groups..The scandles of match fixing continued to rock Pakistani team during the 90s..

    Failure in WC 03.. brought the new generation of cricketers to pakistani team.. but the players behavior didn't change..The conflict between Inzi and Shaoib.. Younis and Afridi.. Afridi and Shaoib akhtar..it seemed like the Pakistani players continued to find ways to get themselves in trouble..

    The emergance of Mohmmad Asif was seen by many as a good news for the future of pakistani cricket. but His troubles didn't help pakistan at all.. his drug use.. fight with shoaib akhtar and afridi continued to keep the tradition of pakistani players troubles..

    Now with the emergance of the new generation of cricketers with Mohmmad Aamir and Umar akmal.. I can't help but to say that they are following the same path as other pakistani players from the past.. M. Aamir's altraction with U. Gul during NZ tour.. U. Akmal's fake injury during the Aus tour proves me right here..

    the current sitaution is worse as the conflict between yousuf and malik is considered by many as the main cause of the bad performance in Aus..

    The sad part about this is that players, captains, coaches and even cricket boards come and go but these problems continued to appear and it has become like a concerious disease in the pakistan cricket..

    most pakistani cricket fans are requsting from Imran khan to come as PCB chairman and fix cricket. whether he can come and take the post time wil tell us. But
    I would like to ask you cricket expirts and grues..what do u guys say is the root problem to these issues in Pakistan cricket? What can be done about it? some people will call for dropping some players.. but history tell us that those players who have been involved in these issues have been match winners for pakistan.. they are even considered as the greatests of the game of cricket..

    So lets disucss this..

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    I think seniors players are the ones causing problems, yousuf should definatly be kicked out, he might be a good batsmen but his attittude is really negative and he is old now, we need young blood in the team

    In my opnion they should make Salman Butt the captain because he the smartest person in the team.

    While guys like Yousuf and Younus should be kicked out. Afridi, Malik, and Kamran should stay though because the team still needs them

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronK View Post
    Lets discuss Pak dressing room Issues..
    Catching capability - lack of.

    There, that's all the discussion needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Catching capability - lack of.

    There, that's all the discussion needed.
    What do they need to catch in the dressing room? Hope the situation in there is not so bad that they're throwing stuff at each other.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeevan View Post
    What do they need to catch in the dressing room? Hope the situation in there is not so bad that they're throwing stuff at each other.
    Try telling Asif that when Shoaib was throwing bats at him

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeevan View Post
    What do they need to catch in the dressing room? Hope the situation in there is not so bad that they're throwing stuff at each other.
    lol It could be that bad u never know

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    Draught in talent = Lack of results

    Lack of Results = Poor morale

    Poor morale = Dressing room issues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xuhaib View Post
    Draught in talent = Lack of results

    Lack of Results = Poor morale

    Poor morale = Dressing room issues
    R u applying the same theory to the 90s Pakistani team as well?

    because i thought they were pretty talented..

    Saeed anwar, Inzamam ul Haq, Moin khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Saqalin Mushtaq, shahid Afridi.and the list can go on..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AaronK View Post
    R u applying the same theory to the 90s Pakistani team as well?

    because i thought they were pretty talented..

    Saeed anwar, Inzamam ul Haq, Moin khan, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Saqalin Mushtaq, shahid Afridi.and the list can go on..
    No draught in talent meant no lack of results. That was just a clash of egos.

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    Theres no point discussing the Pakistani dressing room.

    Fraudulent and corrupt society =
    corrupt selfish cricketing upbringing/coaching =
    currupt selfish team selection =
    .01% chance of a select 11 from the Pakistani system of acting in the best interest of Pakistan cricket =
    that 0.1% would be nothing short of a miracle.


    There are only 2 ways you can control Pakistan's dressing room issues

    1) You have a strong, dictator like leader like Imran Khan who can inspire and almost bully the selection commity and the players into performing to their best ability as a unit

    2) The Pakistani cricketing system from the grassroots is cleaned and gotten rid of most currupt false practices.

    I dont see either of these options coming to surface, so I conclude that Pakistani dressing room will continue to be the joke of the world for the foreseeable future with hopefully a few performance sparks in between (winning the t20 world cup) to keep things a little sane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeevan View Post
    What do they need to catch in the dressing room? Hope the situation in there is not so bad that they're throwing stuff at each other.
    If Shoiab starts throwing his jockstrap around, they're all going to catch something

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
    If Shoiab starts throwing his jockstrap around, they're all going to catch something
    Ha ha ha oh **** my computer is now covered in coffee ha ha ha
    You nick it, i'll catch it then i will send you the scorecard for the next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeevan View Post
    What do they need to catch in the dressing room? Hope the situation in there is not so bad that they're throwing stuff at each other.
    Was sarcasm TBH, but I'm sure some better catching would lead to at least a little less dressing-room friction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
    If Shoiab starts throwing his jockstrap around, they're all going to catch something
    LOL, thats a good one..!!

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