Lets discuss Pak dressing room Issues..

[Sanz]

Theres no point discussing the Pakistani dressing room.

Fraudulent and corrupt society =
corrupt selfish cricketing upbringing/coaching =
currupt selfish team selection =
.01% chance of a select 11 from the Pakistani system of acting in the best interest of Pakistan cricket =
that 0.1% would be nothing short of a miracle.


There are only 2 ways you can control Pakistan's dressing room issues

1) You have a strong, dictator like leader like Imran Khan who can inspire and almost bully the selection commity and the players into performing to their best ability as a unit

2) The Pakistani cricketing system from the grassroots is cleaned and gotten rid of most currupt false practices.

I dont see either of these options coming to surface, so I conclude that Pakistani dressing room will continue to be the joke of the world for the foreseeable future with hopefully a few performance sparks in between (winning the t20 world cup) to keep things a little sane.

Ok. So speaking as an Indian or a Pakistani ?

 

[Sanz]

agree, pakistani society is totally going down, i mean looking back at it, our lives in pakistan 20 years ago seem like heaven compared to today. Every thing is messed up in the country. obvious blame goes to the government and military who have totally ruined the country and have no intention of solving the problems. Imran Khan is our only hope as politician and pakistan's future

Isn't Imran Khan a Punjabi though ?

**Runs Away**

 

[SaeedAnwar]

^ ethinically he is pashtun, but his family has been living in punjab for few generations, i believe he is half/half

and plus he the best politician in the country. My hatred is not for all punjabies to begin with, its only for the villagers who come in to our government and important positions through out like the PCB and basically destroy the country, this is what is happening to pakistan right now.

 

[G.I.Joe]

I'm not convinced. Faisal1985, would you like to discuss this in greater depth with SaeedAnwar?

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

He was considered by many as most talented with so much potential.. he played in Aus and received man of the series during the tringler series.. He was the main performer and helped pakistan win the series with his bowling, batting and fielding..almost three years later.. he made a test century against india in india..his innings helped pakistan get 12 runs victory..

He was never much of a player in the 90s though. He's only become one when his bowling has improved out of sight.

 

[Faisal1985]

The fundamental problem is very simple.

PCB has to simply kick out and put reasonable amount of ban on players who indulge in such actions. Whether its Umar Akmal, Afridi, Akhtar, Asif, Yousuf, Younis etc.....

The minute a player becomes bigger then the game and the country, he is let go of his misconducts and that leads to a tradition of such behaviour because you know you will get away with it.

In the same program some one also mentioned that Australians do not compromise on misconduct and look what happened to Symonds. No one would dare follow that path if proper punishments are handed out.

 

[SaeedAnwar]

the other problem is that clearly talent is missing, i mean there are some guys like Asif, Umer Akmal that are talented but rest are not world class to compete in international matches. The Australian series clearly showed that pakistan team over all had very little talented players

 

[Sanz]

I'm not convinced. Faisal1985, would you like to discuss this in greater depth with SaeedAnwar?

 

[Faisal1985]

I'm not convinced. Faisal1985, would you like to discuss this in greater depth with SaeedAnwar?

You have just confirmed your nationality

P.S:

2008
Province Literacy Rate

Punjab 60.2%
Sindh 57.7%
NWFP 49.9%
Balochistan 48.8%

Source:
http://www.statpak.gov.pk/depts/fbs/publications/lfs2007_08/lfs2007_08.html

 

[AaronK]

He was never much of a player in the 90s though. He's only become one when his bowling has improved out of sight.

Ya but they saw talent and potential in him.. I don't want to get in to his age and claim that he was under 20 because that is a controversial issue..But even now people like Wasim akram and Inzi who played with him and captained him claim that he is talented and has alot of potential..

 

[Xuhaib]

the other problem is that clearly talent is missing, i mean there are some guys like Asif, Umer Akmal that are talented but rest are not world class to compete in international matches. The Australian series clearly showed that pakistan team over all had very little talented players

this.

Even if the players become disciplined and the team spirit improves a side with Misnag,Farhat,Malik,Faisal will still struggle on the interntional stage.Over the past 10 years apart from Umer Akmal and to an extend Salman Butt I hae not seen one Pakistani batsman who looks international class.

The quality of the domestic game has been poor for the past few years though I do expect onecer the National Cricket acadamy and Rashid Latif Cricket acadamy graduates start making there impact on the FC circut the talent that filters through to the national team will gradually improve again.

 

[Jono]

If Shoiab starts throwing his jockstrap around, they're all going to catch something

That's brilliant