Migara
Cricketer Of The Year
And used when they clutch for the straws as well
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Can Ponting overtake Tendulkar?
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silentstriker
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Yes, performance of him and Sidhu (let's not forget him) was orgasmic. This was when Warne had nightmares about Sachin.
There was a story Shane Warne told about this after he retired:
In 1998, Warne was bowling to Sachin, the ball landed perfectly, spun ferociously and Warne thought it was a wicket for sure. The next thing he knows, Tendulkar nonchalantly got on his knees and hit it against the spin for a boundary.
Taylor came upto Shane after that, and asked: "What do we do now, mate?" And Warne said, "We lose." I don't know how much truth there is in that story, and Warne likes to tell some good ones, but it pretty much epitomized Tendulkar at his peak.
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
Being worse than someone doesn't mean you don't deserve the record!
Bradman had the record for most centuries until Gavaskar overtook him. That doesn't mean Gavaskar was a better batsman than Bradman! No one is saying that passing him means Gavaskar was better all of a sudden. That also doesn't mean the feat was undeserved!
L Trumper
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Warne never really troubled the two best players of his generation but somehow gets away with it because some of his inhuman performances against others are so.. well inhuman.
Furball
Evil Scotsman
Kinda helps that those 2 players were immense players of spin.
Migara
Cricketer Of The Year
The fact is Sachin would have had it easy even if he debuted against Warne in peak form. The batting line up that India had were exteremely impressive aainst spin. Shasthri, Sidhu, Azhar, Patil, Gavaskar, Kambli, Jadeja or Sehwag are amazing players of spin. Sachin would have quietly fitted in to that big jigsaw.
L Trumper
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Yeah even murali had little success probably against SRT in SL and thats about it.
Sir Alex
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Of course, India boasted of some of the world's finest spin players. But it is not as if Tendulkar had dominated Warne in only in their company. While people talk about 98 an oft forgotten fact is that a full Australian side played the then champs Mumbai in a 4 day warm up. A break from tradition, Tendulkar sought permission to play in that match. He was dismissed cheaply by Warne in the first innings, but in the second, on a much worse pitch, Tendulkar launched an attack on Warne which I don't think he has done even in ODIs ever since. Tendulkar scored a 190 ball double hundred and Warne ended up conceding over 100 runs in 15 overs i think. One of the many sixers he hit was a slog sweep that went out of the stadium, and if the Hindu's correspondent could be believed the ball was still in half volley when it exited the stadium. Sehwag would've creamed his pants out had he seen that!
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
Don't let the Facts get in your way.
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In this comparison, would you think the Indian bowlers (that Ponting faced) were comparable to the Australian bowlers (that Tendulkar did)?
(I would take either of the implications: Either Harbhajan, Kumble & co are given their due on CW or that's one more thing that Ponting had an easier time of).
Sanz
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Obviously Ponting faced the world Class Bowlers Tendulkar never had to face.
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Shame on me for not knowing Agarkar was this good (averages 0.00 against Ponting in 8 matches
)But seriously, Ishant averages 18 and Zaheer 29 vs Ponting (and curiously Sreesanth has never bowled at him in tests?)
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Guys this isn't a Ponting vs. Sachin debate FFS!
Anyway, as I've held for maaaaaaaaaany years (and proudly now that I'm looking like I'll be right), I believe that Sachin's most runs and most tons will not be surpassed by Ricky.
But I think Kallis is a threat, as his game is most suited to continuing despite his eyes going. He also can go forever because he is not captain. He is also Jacques Kallis and can do almost anything (except get a double ton).
Anyway, as I've held for maaaaaaaaaany years (and proudly now that I'm looking like I'll be right), I believe that Sachin's most runs and most tons will not be surpassed by Ricky.
But I think Kallis is a threat, as his game is most suited to continuing despite his eyes going. He also can go forever because he is not captain. He is also Jacques Kallis and can do almost anything (except get a double ton).
Burgey
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Clever non-mention of his ****house elbow injury that he played through.. nice work..
Don't know if he'll pass him tbh. Occasionally Ponting has these troubles with his back (or has in the past), don't know if that would keep him from going on long enough.
Certainly Tendulkar seems to be keeping-on-keeping-on right now. Personally waiting to see if Ponting can dial back his game a little to adjust for age, as Tendulkar has to some extent (that's a wrap on him btw, not a criticism). Will be interesting to see if he's able to do that, or indeed if he has to. Seems to me, fwiw, that he does.
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