Who Is The Better Captain? Smith or Ponting?

Pratters · 13-02-2010, 10:59 PM

Had a discussion with my cousin about this and we thought Smith is better. He thought slightly, I thought a bit more than slightly but both certainly.

Smith had the better batting average and centuries as captain when my brother checked last which is quite impressive as well.

What's your opinion?

Mr Mxyzptlk · 13-02-2010, 11:01 PM

Watto. In first with it.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 13-02-2010, 11:02 PM

I'd probably say Smith btw, though I don't think either of them are particularly incredible. I just think Smith has had a bit less to work with.

Burgey · 13-02-2010, 11:32 PM

Right now he's got more to work with.

Close imo. If Ponting can transform this side back towards number one aft erh emass retirements, he'll have his captaincy legacy. If it doesn't happen, there will always be question marks. Tbf there probably always will be question marks anyway.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 13-02-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Burgey

Right now he's got more to work with.

Really? South Africa has pace resources?

SeamUp · 13-02-2010, 11:43 PM

They're probably about even-stevens but over the years Smith has been getting better as captain.

Smith does have a better bowling attack than Austrlalia at the moment but Ricky did captain with McGrath and Warne in the side as well a few years back.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 13-02-2010, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SeamUp

Smith does have a better bowling attack than Austrlalia at the moment

Steyn is the only South African bowler who I think Australia would envy. A lot of good pace bowling talent in Australia right now, and certainly a lot more depth than South Africa. Smith has less at his disposal than Ponting in my mind.

SeamUp · 13-02-2010, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk

Steyn is the only South African bowler who I think Australia would envy. A lot of good pace bowling talent in Australia right now, and certainly a lot more depth than South Africa. Smith has less at his disposal than Ponting in my mind.

Ryan Harris and Doug Bollinger have been made to look better than they are by 2 average teams in West Indies and Pakistan. McKay is also probably behind those 2.

Harris debuted against us last year and got 1-54 in 10 overs and didn't get picked again. Didn't look like a bowler to be scared of.

Also Bollonger debuted against us and got 2-100 or even more in the match. Didn't bother our batsman too much.

The same can be said that we wouldn't really want any of Austrlalias bowlers.

But what I won't argue with is that they have 6 or 7 bowlers in the mix while we have 4 or 5 of very good to excellent standard.

Mr Mxyzptlk · 13-02-2010, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SeamUp

Ryan Harris and Doug Bollinger have been made to look better than they are by 2 average teams in West Indies and Pakistan. McKay is also probably behind those 2.

Harris debuted against us last year and got 1-54 in 10 overs and didn't get picked again. Didn't look like a bowler to be scared of.

Also Bollonger debuted against us and got 2-100 or even more in the match. Didn't bother our batsman too much.

The same can be said that we wouldn't really want any of Austrlalias bowlers.

But what I won't argue with is that they have 6 or 7 bowlers in the mix while we have 4 or 5 of very good to excellent standard.

You're aware that players do improve over time right? Just throwing it out there...

SeamUp · 14-02-2010, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk

You're aware that players do improve over time right? Just throwing it out there...

Sure but they were not exactly spring chickens in debuting at 27 and 29. So they have a bit of experience under their belt to deal with pressure. Sure they can struggle early on in their debuts or earlier games but they didn't look as good as what they're being made to be when they were up against a class batting line-up.

I think we have an attack that can last a long time.

STEYN (26)

M.MORKEL (25)

PARNELL (20)

All still very young and a few bowlers waiting in the wings.

Dano.85 · 14-02-2010, 01:32 AM

Smith just.

Shri · 14-02-2010, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SeamUp

Sure but they were not exactly spring chickens in debuting at 27 and 29. So they have a bit of experience under their belt to deal with pressure. Sure they can struggle early on in their debuts or earlier games but they didn't look as good as what they're being made to be when they were up against a class batting line-up.

I think we have an attack that can last a long time.

STEYN (26)

M.MORKEL (25)

PARNELL (20)

All still very young and a few bowlers waiting in the wings.

Like Cornellius de Villiers and company? Indeed.

SeamUp · 14-02-2010, 01:41 AM

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Like Cornellius de Villiers and company? Indeed.

He is in the mix but has fallen behind Theron and De Wet.

Love the name in full ey Metallics...easier to call him CJ.

Ntini also doesn't believe his career at test level has finished. Gone back to domestic cricket and putting in the hard yards. Cannot write him off I guess because he is one of the fittest and hard-working players around.

Theres a highly rated bowler in the u19 set-up as well.

jondavluc · 14-02-2010, 01:51 AM

Ponting

AaronK · 14-02-2010, 01:52 AM

Smith.. but Dhoni is the best one around the world

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