Will Tait break Akhtars world record?

[mohammad16]

Originally Posted by Migara

Mohammed Zahid and Mohammed Akram were much quicker than Akthar or Tait

Mohammad Zahid was not MUCH quicker, also Mohammad Akram was DEFINITELY not quicker than Akhtar.

[aussie]

Originally Posted by wfdu_ben91

Yeah, I reckon all six delieveries in his first over would've been over the 160kph range if he were playing in South Africa.

Indeed. Speed guns in South Africa thanks to the altitude makes most bowlers seem quicker.

[aussie]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

I agree with this. Ishant was clocked at above 150 kmph, which he has never touched since.

I remember that. but i honestly think that was speed gun glich just like in the 2004 IND vs PAK series when i saw Sami clocked at over 160 to a delivery to Ganguly.

Speed guns in AUS are fairly accurate i'd say. Tait has clocked 160 in AUS twice now, so i'd say its by no means inflated.

[aussie]

Originally Posted by Migara

Mohammed Zahid and Mohammed Akram were much quicker than Akthar or Tait

Never saw Zahid, so wont comment on him. But i saw Akram & thats impossible.

[wfdu_ben91]

Originally Posted by Sir Alex

I agree with this. Ishant was clocked at above 150 kmph, which he has never touched since.

In all fairness, in that spell Ishant was rushing the batsman and looked to be a handful. Ishant was very quick during that ODI series, but he obviously toned down a bit after that because of his slender build. The ball that was clocked 150kph was very much legitimate.

[thierry henry]

Originally Posted by Goughy

Big claim to put words in the mouth of a lot of people. Im not saying you are wrong but Id never be so presumptuous.

Out of interest, this is a quote from Tendulkar
"The quickest ball I faced was from Ambrose in Jamaica... luckily it was a bouncer and it went one foot over my head and I was safe "

tbh I was under the impression that Ambrose was a Glenn McGrath-type bowler, maybe 140s at best and that's about it?

[Migara]

Originally Posted by mohammad16

Mohammad Zahid was not MUCH quicker, also Mohammad Akram was DEFINITELY not quicker than Akhtar.

I have seen only one bowler beating de Silva for pace. Marshall, Ambrose or Walsh did not do it in de Silva's youth. Donald, Waqar and Schultz at their pomp didn't manage it. Akthar and Lee bowling at 160k to a 35yr old de Silva was not too quick for him. But Mohammed AKram at Sialkot in early 1990s did it. That convinced me that Mohammed Akram was very quick.

And of course, that over to Lara from Zahid is well documented.

[Migara]

Originally Posted by aussie

Never saw Zahid, so wont comment on him. But i saw Akram & thats impossible.

I think you have seen Akram after the back injury. A bowler who could split open a thigh pad (against Chandika Haturusinghe at Sialkot) is having serious pace.

Zahid played 1992 WC series, and he managed to keep all the West Indians' eyes wide open. They did not see anything quick as that since Thompson.

[Top_Cat]

Originally Posted by thierry henry

tbh I was under the impression that Ambrose was a Glenn McGrath-type bowler, maybe 140s at best and that's about it?

Mid-90's was when he started to slow a bit but before that, was rapid enough. Don't recall him ever being quicker than Bish, though.

That's the thing, though; enough top players have said once a bloke is up past 145Km/h, it's all just 'quick'.

[zaremba]

Originally Posted by thierry henry

tbh I was under the impression that Ambrose was a Glenn McGrath-type bowler, maybe 140s at best and that's about it?

In the first part of his career he was genuinely quick and (I'd guess) comfortably able to exceed 90mph (145 kmh), particularly when his tail was up.

[GuyFromLancs]

Originally Posted by thierry henry

tbh I was under the impression that Ambrose was a Glenn McGrath-type bowler, maybe 140s at best and that's about it?

Most of the time he was. But he could step it up to 90-ish in short bursts. The fact is he rarely needed to which tells you all you need to know about sling-shotters like Tait trying to break speed records whilst maintaining bowling averages of 40+.

[zaremba]

Originally Posted by migara

zahid played 1992 wc series, and he managed to keep all the west indians' eyes wide open. They did not see anything quick as that since thompson.

1996/7 ftr.

[BoyBrumby]

Always reckon speed guns are overrated myself; after all they measure the speed through the air and take no account of the pace lost when the ball pitches. I personally think telly broadcasters are missing a trick in not measuring the time it takes from release to the ball reaching the batsman. That's the money shot of the delivery after all; it's all well and good if the ball's up over 85mph out of the hand, but if it dies on the wicket and the batsman has time to adjust his shot it's really only impressive statistically.

Blokes like Steyn, Zaheer & Onions aren't really any quicker on the speed gun than (say) Sami, Broad or Watson but seem to hurry batsmen up more often.

[Migara]

Originally Posted by zaremba

1996/7 ftr.

I assume you are correct.

[Son Of Coco]

Originally Posted by thierry henry

tbh I was under the impression that Ambrose was a Glenn McGrath-type bowler, maybe 140s at best and that's about it?

He gave batsmen much more of a hurry on than McGrath. Especially if he got the ****s