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Old 05-02-2010, 05:53 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 05-02-2010, 06:28 PM   #17 (permalink)
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No, he's merely the fastest to have bowled since records begun. Big difference.
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I understand it perfectly well; how can you think I don't?
Maybe its me that dosent ubderstand then, so I'll ask the question.

What is the difference between being the fastest bowler on record and being the fastest bowler since records begun. Apparently there is a big difference so I'll let you explain.
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There's a good chance he already has bowled a quicker delivery than Akhtar did. His average speeds are beyond belief at times.
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Old 05-02-2010, 07:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Yes. But not pitch conditions. Atmospheric conditions.

And different radars/dodgy radars/slight differences in how the radars are set-up etc etc IMO
That's how Nehra was able to get over 150km/h at the 2003 WC.
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Old 05-02-2010, 07:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Maybe its me that dosent ubderstand then, so I'll ask the question.

What is the difference between being the fastest bowler on record and being the fastest bowler since records begun. Apparently there is a big difference so I'll let you explain.
I am sure Richard will be happy to argue this himself

But there were different ways of recording the speed (I think SS did some research?) in the 70s.
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I think he goes bowls in South Africa he will break it.
Yeah, I reckon all six delieveries in his first over would've been over the 160kph range if he were playing in South Africa.
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I seriously feel if you were to ask the Tendulkar's, Sehwags, Pontings, Langers and Kallis of who was easily the quickest bowler they ever faced or saw, I am confident almost all of them would point towards Akhtar, not Lee or Tait. I dont know whether its swing, his action or his intimidating run up, but at his quickest Akhtar seemed the most dangerous of the quickies of his generation.

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Old 05-02-2010, 07:40 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I seriously feel if you were to ask the Tendulkar's, Sehwags, Pontings, Langers and Kallis of who was easily the quickest bowler they ever faced or saw, I am confident almost all of them would point towards Akhtar, not Lee or Tait..
Big claim to put words in the mouth of a lot of people. Im not saying you are wrong but Id never be so presumptuous.

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"The quickest ball I faced was from Ambrose in Jamaica... luckily it was a bouncer and it went one foot over my head and I was safe "
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Big claim to put words in the mouth of a lot of people. Im not saying you are wrong but Id never be so presumptuous.

Out of interest, this is a quote from Tendulkar
"The quickest ball I faced was from Ambrose in Jamaica... luckily it was a bouncer and it went one foot over my head and I was safe "
Not putting words in their mouth, just saying im quite confident what most of their responses would be. Well I know Lara pointed towards Mohammad Zahid as the quickest hes ever faced, he couldn't put bat to ball against him for 5 straight balls and then lost his wicket on the 6th. Ambrose was very quick but I wouldn't say as quick as Lee/Akhtar etc. Maybe it was the bitter rivalry between Tendulkar and Akhtar that prompted very little praise for Akhtar by Tendulkar. Tendulkar seemed to have a lot more good things to say about Lee's bowling.

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Brian lara said that Mohammad Zahid of Pakistan was the fastest bowler he ever faced. Akhtar even says that Mohammad Zahid was considerably faster than him,and in his opinion the fastest bowler in the world. too bad the PCB messed his career up as they do to so many pak players
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My memory goes back to the 70s, and a couple of spells from Akhtar were as fast as I have ever watched, Thommo and Holding included
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My memory goes back to the 70s, and a couple of spells from Akhtar were as fast as I have ever watched, Thommo and Holding included
The human eye is not a very good judge of speeds, especially after about 50MPH.
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No, he's merely the fastest to have bowled since records begun. Big difference.
Mohammed Zahid and Mohammed Akram were much quicker than Akthar or Tait
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The human eye is not a very good judge of speeds, especially after about 50MPH.
Ah right, then he looked faster than Jim Higgs and Eddie Hemmings
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Massively inflated speed gun readings tbh, no ****ing way was Tait 160km/h
I agree with this. Ishant was clocked at above 150 kmph, which he has never touched since.
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