*Official* Bangladesh in New Zealand

[bryce]

Originally Posted by thierry henry

What makes that even stranger is I saw him on the tellie for the first time yesterday and was impressed

Exact same here, lol. NZ selectors must have been in the same boat

[Voltman]

Originally Posted by Howsie

Anyone listen to radiosport today? It was great fun. We had such thoughts as:

- Daniel Vettori is taking over New Zealand cricket and picking all his buddies
- Our best cricketers only care about themselves and how much money they can make (IPL)
- Jacob Oram sucks (Best comment of the day tbh)
- Justin Vaughn doesn't know what he's doing and he's too scared to stand up to anyone
- Selectors have no clue how to pick a team if they're picking players like Ingram and Hopkins

There was however plenty of love for Scott Styris.

TBH I would not be surprised if Bangaldesh beat New Zealand in the one day series with the bowlers that have been selected, McKay and Butler can be very expensive on there day, Southee's still a fairly average one day bowler and Tuffey can go for a few when the batting team goes after him.

I listened to bits of Mark Watson today - his lack of knowledge so infuriated me, I switched stations.

[thierry henry]

I said the same 12 months ago, but I can't get my head around the logic of people who are ok with Styris' omission.

Forget his bowling- surely in the absence of Ryder our best 4 ODI bats are Guptill, Taylor, McCullum and Styris?

[thierry henry]

Looking at the other blokes in the squad I don't even think it's arguable.

[99*]

Originally Posted by Voltman

I listened to bits of Mark Watson today - his lack of knowledge so infuriated me, I switched stations.

He just hates New Zealand cricket. Nothing pleases him more than tearing into NZC.

[bryce]

Originally Posted by thierry henry

I said the same 12 months ago, but I can't get my head around the logic of people who are ok with Styris' omission.

Forget his bowling- surely in the absence of Ryder our best 4 ODI bats are Guptill, Taylor, McCullum and Styris?

Definitely our 4 most proven - no question about that. But when you look at his last 7 ODI's(44 runs@6.29) you can see why the selectors want to try other options in the batting department. Don't get me wrong I am to say the least appalled that he was left out of the T20 side, but am happy to see him miss out on the ODI side. Broom has earnt an extended run at number 5. I don't care what people say about Broom's lack of ODI numbers he has batted higher than six only twice in his 16 ODI caps to date which is not where a top order player should be. Besides if he happened to fail they would merely go back to piggy

[thierry henry]

Originally Posted by bryce

Definitely our 4 most proven - no question about that. But when you look at his last 7 ODI's(44 runs@6.29) you can see why the selectors want to try other options in the batting department. Don't get me wrong I am to say the least appalled that he was left out of the T20 side, but am happy to see him miss out on the ODI side. Broom has earnt an extended run at number 5. I don't care what people say about Broom's lack of ODI numbers he has batted higher than six only twice in his 16 ODI caps to date which is not where a top order player should be. Besides if he happened to fail they would merely go back to piggy

Honestly 7 matches is pretty much nothing, especially when they were spread out over several extended breaks which were themselves down to poor selection!

Broom should never be in the team when Styris is available as there's simply no way he has ever done enough to overtake Styris. The argument about whether Broom would have done better up the order is kinda irrelevant imo because either way, there's absolutely no case that I can think of for saying he's a better ODI bat than Styris.

To me it's pretty much analogous to dropping, say, Ross Taylor for Shanan Stewart. One of our proven best ODI players has been dropped inexplicably for a next-cab-off-the-rank. Only difference imo is Styris is 30-something and funny looking, and maybe a bit of a douche?

[Flem274*]

Originally Posted by Howsie

Anyone listen to radiosport today? It was great fun. We had such thoughts as:

- Daniel Vettori is taking over New Zealand cricket and picking all his buddies
- Our best cricketers only care about themselves and how much money they can make (IPL)
- Jacob Oram sucks (Best comment of the day tbh)
- Justin Vaughn doesn't know what he's doing and he's too scared to stand up to anyone
- Selectors have no clue how to pick a team if they're picking players like Ingram and Hopkins

There was however plenty of love for Scott Styris.

TBH I would not be surprised if Bangaldesh beat New Zealand in the one day series with the bowlers that have been selected, McKay and Butler can be very expensive on there day, Southee's still a fairly average one day bowler and Tuffey can go for a few when the batting team goes after him.

Lol I suspected that was mark Watson when I saw that, then Voltman confirmed it.

The guy (watson) is such a douche. Must be the name...

[Voltman]

I liked how he agreed with the caller who said Nathan McCullum is rubbish and should be dropped in the T20 team for Jeetan Patel.

McCullum - better batsman, better fielder and is more economical than Patel by about 1.5 runs per over thus far in their respective T20I careers.

[GGG]

Really strange that Styris has been left out, he has been in pretty good nick lately. As for "ODI's(44 runs@6.29", well yeah when he is picked out of season/hasn't player for a while/out of form ... Gezzz it doesn't take a genious to work out if someone has proven himself at the highest level and is currently in form and fit then he should be a automatic selection, but nah "build for the world cup" and never pick on form regardless of age as we seem to do year after year.

[Mixmasterreece]

Originally Posted by Flem274*

Pick Williamson!!!

Okay, in all seriousness MMR, who would you pick? You seem to hate everyone in domestic cricket whenever squads are announced

Pinga? - Vincent, Nicol, Stewart, WATLING, Styris

MacKay? - Arnel

but in the end i think our best chance would of been if NZC had hired the 'undie bomber' to delay Obrien's flight out of NZ.

Oh, and how could i forget Gareth f****ing Hopkins...... as a specialist batsmen. What a joke. Any of the above batsmen should be there over him.

[Halfpast_Yellow]

Originally Posted by Mixmasterreece

Oh, and how could i forget Gareth f****ing Hopkins...... as a specialist batsmen. What a joke. Any of the above batsmen should be there over him.

Apparently he is a 'great character' - Greatbach.

McKay doesn't seem that bad a choice to me over Arnel, he offers more pace + left arm, could be a good punt.

Was Arnel ever really going to set the world on fire, he's another honest toiler isn't he? We're fine for those.

[Howsie]

Originally Posted by Halfpast_Yellow

Apparently he is a 'great character' - Greatbach.

McKay doesn't seem that bad a choice to me over Arnel, he offers more pace + left arm, could be a good punt.

Was Arnel ever really going to set the world on fire, he's another honest toiler isn't he? We're fine for those.

Arnel getting overlooked with Tuffey in the team is probably fair enough tbh. Arnel is probably a little quicker but they both do pretty much the same job.

[Halfpast_Yellow]

Originally Posted by Howsie

Arnel getting overlooked with Tuffey in the team is probably fair enough tbh. Arnel is probably a little quicker but they both do pretty much the same job.

I think this was pretty much what Greatbach was implying from his quote on stuff.co.nz

[Craig]

Howsie, you said recently you have grave fears for Guptill if he plays against Australia and scores a century against Bangladresh, I guess the same would apply for McIntosh. We know he will carve up the Bangladeshi bowling attack (hey he loves a flat track), and I can see him being Bollinger's bitch. Or if he lasts that long, then surely Johnson would get him out.