*Official* Bangladesh in New Zealand

[SmityNZ]

Nahh, I'm sure if a squad had been released, at least one of us would have a source.
I think it was supposed to be named the other day though.
Unless the other guy explains, it's just a baseless rumor.

There's the base above, champion. Sometimes people gets the news before it hits the news.

 

[bryce]

Yeah i'm fairly happy with all these selections too. IIRC it's been a while since i've said that about an NZ team. I'm glad they went for Ingram over Vincent since he's done it the hard way by churning out a bucketload of runs. One of those bowlers is bound to get an injury so McKay should get a run at some stage.

 

[Flem274*]

Yeah i'm fairly happy with all these selections too. IIRC it's been a while since i've said that about an NZ team. I'm glad they went for Ingram over Vincent since he's done it the hard way by churning out a bucketload of runs. One of those bowlers is bound to get an injury so McKay should get a run at some stage.

Surprised there's no Arnel tbh. I'd have him ahead of Butler.

Still picking Hopkins for limited overs as well but apart from that and my nervousness over Jimmehs bowling the squad is good.

EDIT: Broom sooo lucky to still be there ahead of Styris and Stewart. Has scored domestically in List A for once but his ODI record is appalling.

So whose gonna miss out for the 20/20, Nathan McCullum or Gareth Hopkins?

 

[bryce]

Styris was left out due to him probably not being required to bowl, given the vast amount of options. Though I do think Franklin's role in the T20 side will be minimal at best, and Styris would have been a more appropriate selection for that fixture.
I'd say Butler got the nod because of his ability at the death

 

[NZTailender]

Never thought I'd see the day.

 

[Mixmasterreece]

Well thats just f*cked.

'Pinga' was bound to get a shot sooner or later to prove he can't move his feet. But McKay is a complete suprise - he's a toiler, and not even one of the better toilers running around.

Epic fail.

 

[Flem274*]

Pick Williamson!!!

Okay, in all seriousness MMR, who would you pick? You seem to hate everyone in domestic cricket whenever squads are announced

 

[Howsie]

That is all

Edit: Nah, the Ingram selection is fair enough tbh, even though I reckon he'll fail at the international level. I've always sort of liked McKay tbh and from what I've seen this season he's bowling quicker then ever and might actually be over 140. Wouldn't that be fantastic, a left arm bowler swinging it in to the right handers at 140K.

At least Vincent wasn't picked, that would of pissed me of no end. Oh and with Neil Broom looking like getting the number five position I'm even happier (he'll be able to fix up that record of his now I guess).

 

[Flem274*]

That is all

Edit: Nah, the Ingram selection is fair enough tbh, even though I reckon he'll fail at the international level. I've always sort of liked McKay tbh and from what I've seen this season he's bowling quicker then ever and might actually be over 140. Wouldn't that be fantastic, a left arm bowler swinging it in to the right handers at 140K.

At least Vincent wasn't picked, that would of pissed me of no end. Oh and with Neil Broom looking like getting the number five position I'm even happier (he'll be able to fix up that record of his now I guess).

I think HDS was saying McKay had slowed down. Will have to check though because that might be a misquote.

Looked quick on the tellie though.

EDIT: Yeah was a misquote.

 

[bryce]

But McKay is a complete suprise - he's a toiler, and not even one of the better toilers running around.

Epic fail.

From the limited coverage I saw of him it looked as though he hurried onto the bastman and bowled very much into the wicket. I think the definition of a toiler would more be your along the wicket medium pacers in the Thompson, McSkimming sort of mould.
I personally wouldn't put him in the toiler category from what I have seen(little tbh).

 

[Howsie]

One of the guys that post on PC who is a massive Wellington fan and watches a crap load of domestic cricket had McKay down as the second fastest bowler in the country after Shane Bond late last year, said he wouldn't of been surprised if McKay was clocked at 90+ mph.

Personally from what I've seen I would of guessed late 130's early 140's but I'd take his word for it.

 

[Athlai]

Jimmeh, on ya mate.

 

[DIRK-NANNES]

There's the base above, champion. Sometimes people gets the news before it hits the news.

Haha yee sorry, it's just McKay is just such a off base pick to me.
It's not like the guy has played for Emerging Players, A and the such, there hadn't been any grooming or signs that he was in the selectors minds.
Plus the limited overs team doesn't particularly need 'pace', unless this is some sort of launchpad for the Test team.
Is Arnel the Kiwi equivalent of Dirk Nannes?? He must feel a lil pissed.

Sad to see Styris shafted again and no new middle order bats like Stewart.
The Twenty20 team looks light on batting, too many all rounders.
And what's the point of adding in Hopkins? If McCullum is injured, they can easily ship in someone decent like McGlashan.

 

[Flem274*]

One of the guys that post on PC who is a massive Wellington fan and watches a crap load of domestic cricket had McKay down as the second fastest bowler in the country after Shane Bond late last year, said he wouldn't of been surprised if McKay was clocked at 90+ mph.

Personally from what I've seen I would of guessed late 130's early 140's but I'd take his word for it.

Now thats interesting. Who else has he seen play? Bennett, Davis, McClenaghan, Wagner, et al?

I've always liked what I've heard on the radio but have never had a chance to see him. Had the impression he was another 135ks dude that can get some movement, so the bowler I saw for admittedly only a few overs in the 20/20 was a nice surprise.

I'm suspicious but I hope your PC guy is right on the speed. Don't see many quality left arm quicks through NZs history. Geoff Allott probably the only one off the top of my head and Collinge wasn't rapid.

I think your pace range is closer to the mark though.

Still a bit gutted for Arnel that he didn't get in but oh well.

On Ingram () I'm actualy confident for the limited overs stuff. You can get away with a bit more in ODIs. I reckon short is the place to bowl to him. Sure he doesnt move his feet much off the front or back foot but he looks alot better on the front foot whereas on the back foot he can tend to go fishing with his pulls and hooks, plus with his feet the way they are theyre a bit harder to execute well.

 

[nz0003]

Watling should be there, more reason to be in the One Day team than the Test team. Pretty disappointed with Hopkins making the squad as well.

EDIT: Stewart should of got a gig as well.

 

[thierry henry]

The non-selection of Styris is just ridiculous (again). I can't back this up with anything apart from various snippets I've seen on TV, but I almost have a feeling it's non-cricket related (seems to be regarded as the dressing room pest that every team has that doesn't really fit in).

It's either that or some misguided notion that since he's 34 and has retired from tests we may as well start looking to blood youngsters- even though Styris should conceivably have 2 or 3 good years left as one of our best specialist limited overs batsmen (hardly matters if he bowls really, although I noticed the other day he seemed to have recaptured the old ability to bowl at a respectable 130-odd clicks) and should be currently building to play a vital role at the World Cup.

As for McKay, weird....he's 29, has been on the scene for 7 years and only played a handful of games for moderate results.

What makes that even stranger is I saw him on the tellie for the first time yesterday and was impressed- got the impression he was bowling 140kph and swinging it.

Hmmm....not sure what to make of it tbh.

 

[thierry henry]

Having seen him bowl all of about 5 balls I'm going to boldly predict that McKay will register in the 140s....infact, I'll be super bold and say he'll bowl at least one ball at, let's say, 143kph or more.

 

[Howsie]

Anyone listen to radiosport today? It was great fun. We had such thoughts as:

- Daniel Vettori is taking over New Zealand cricket and picking all his buddies
- Our best cricketers only care about themselves and how much money they can make (IPL)
- Jacob Oram sucks (Best comment of the day tbh)
- Justin Vaughn doesn't know what he's doing and he's too scared to stand up to anyone
- Selectors have no clue how to pick a team if they're picking players like Ingram and Hopkins

There was however plenty of love for Scott Styris.

TBH I would not be surprised if Bangaldesh beat New Zealand in the one day series with the bowlers that have been selected, McKay and Butler can be very expensive on there day, Southee's still a fairly average one day bowler and Tuffey can go for a few when the batting team goes after him.

 

[Howsie]

Now thats interesting. Who else has he seen play? Bennett, Davis, McClenaghan, Wagner, et al?

I've always liked what I've heard on the radio but have never had a chance to see him. Had the impression he was another 135ks dude that can get some movement, so the bowler I saw for admittedly only a few overs in the 20/20 was a nice surprise.

I'm suspicious but I hope your PC guy is right on the speed. Don't see many quality left arm quicks through NZs history. Geoff Allott probably the only one off the top of my head and Collinge wasn't rapid.

I think your pace range is closer to the mark though.

Still a bit gutted for Arnel that he didn't get in but oh well.

On Ingram () I'm actualy confident for the limited overs stuff. You can get away with a bit more in ODIs. I reckon short is the place to bowl to him. Sure he doesnt move his feet much off the front or back foot but he looks alot better on the front foot whereas on the back foot he can tend to go fishing with his pulls and hooks, plus with his feet the way they are theyre a bit harder to execute well.

I'm pretty sure he's seen most of the "quick" bowlers around New Zealand, he always went on about how Davis never actually looked that quick and how Bennett would bowl quick for about two overs and slow down.

 

[Athlai]

Jacob Oram does suck tbf.

Haha but anyway gutted to see Phlegm getting what he wants. Well done to PInga he really deserved this call up, he'll probably fail like all other openers do for us but he earned this.

McKay seems like a good choice, adds something different even if he bowls some fodder. Franklin is my idol though, stoked to see him back in the fold.

So the bowling will be:

McKay
Tuffey
Southee/Butler
Vettori
Franklin/Oram

Styris vs. Oram is an interesting question to be raised here, both waning and both stronger than the other in a particular form. Styris batting and Oram bowling, Franklin having the greater batting form and my Wellington bias. This team may need the bowling more so I can see why Styris was left out... though maybe he could have had Brooms ODI spot. I just hope Broom doesn't fail again in ODIs and get left out of a Test callup.