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[James]

This is great news - Cricket: Vincent 'in the frame' for Black Caps - Sport - NZ Herald News - would be good to see him back in the Black Caps.

[potato_25]

ohh okk
probably is more than a groin strain cos he's been out fora while

[Athlai]

Originally Posted by James

This is great news - Cricket: Vincent 'in the frame' for Black Caps - Sport - NZ Herald News - would be good to see him back in the Black Caps.

Heard on the radio that this is what the NZ selectors were thinking. Where does he fit in though?
Will Ryder finally be placed down the order in the long term?

[morgieb]

Good news. Kiwis badly need top-order bats.

[James]

Originally Posted by Athlai

Heard on the radio that this is what the NZ selectors were thinking. Where does he fit in though?
Will Ryder finally be placed down the order in the long term?

McCullum back down the order with Guptill and Ryder opening with Vincent at 3?

[NZTailender]

Haha, wow, really was not expecting this. As a Vincent fan it's great news but as a New Zealand fan you just have to feel a bit for the guys on the sidelines waiting to make their debut, especially if you miss out on someone who has only just returned and played a handful of T20 matches.

[marc71178]

Originally Posted by Athlai

Ryder still needs a runner in matches I think. Not much has been revealed about his injury at all, maybe theres more than just the groin strain?

How would that work though? Surely the opposing captain could just refuse?

[Howsie]

Originally Posted by marc71178

How would that work though? Surely the opposing captain could just refuse?

He's been doing that in A games for Wellington against under 19 teams and what not, so pretty much practice games.

Edit: Oh and ff's with Lou Vincent. Why in the world would he even be near the New Zealand team. If where picking guys on 20/20 form this season perhaps we should play guys like Seth Rance and Anton Devcich

[Halfpast_Yellow]

Originally Posted by Howsie

He's been doing that in A games for Wellington against under 19 teams and what not, so pretty much practice games.

Edit: Oh and ff's with Lou Vincent. Why in the world would he even be near the New Zealand team. If where picking guys on 20/20 form this season perhaps we should play guys like Seth Rance and Anton Devcich

Oh? When did those two last play for the Black Caps?

[Howsie]

When was the last time Lou Vincent did anything of note, I'd guess at 2006. But yea, let's put him in the New Zealand team based on 2-3 innings. Talk about a slap in the face for guys that have actually worked hard for four plus years now.

[SilentOne]

Cricket: Ryder in for long wait on sidelines - Sport - NZ Herald News

[Hurricane]

Originally Posted by SilentOne

Cricket: Ryder in for long wait on sidelines - Sport - NZ Herald News

Why did he have to do sprint training and reinjure it. Seems like sprint training is asking for trouble.

[DIRK-NANNES]

Originally Posted by Howsie

When was the last time Lou Vincent did anything of note, I'd guess at 2006. But yea, let's put him in the New Zealand team based on 2-3 innings. Talk about a slap in the face for guys that have actually worked hard for four plus years now.

I agree, if I was a fella like Rob Nicol or Shanan Stewart, I'd feel fairly shafted to see Lou Vincent in the ODI squad.
Those two have been in imperious form in domestic ODs and they both can bat in any position.
Plus it's not like they are spring chickens either, they're seasoned domestic campaigners, could have some problems with quality spin though.

Three good tonks in a handful of Twenty20s don't warrant Lou Vincent being fast tracked back for anything other than Twenty20s.
Fast tracking someone like Bond is alright as there is low supply of quality express bowlers, but fast tracking Vincent stinks of a Luke McAllister type situation.
Don't forget Watling too.

So are Mills and Ryder the only ones unavailable? How about Elliott?

From 7 down the players are locked in for me, suppose Arnel could come in:

Positions 7 - 11:
* DL Vettori
JDP Oram
DR Tuffey
TG Southee
SE Bond

Top Order:
MJ Guptill
+ BB McCullum
SB Styris
LRPL Taylor
NT Broom
SL Stewart / RJ Nicol

or

BJ Watling
+ BB McCullum
MJ Guptill
LRPL Taylor
NT Broom
SB Styris

Broom, Styris or new guy's positions are interchangeable.

[NZTailender]

Originally Posted by Howsie

When was the last time Lou Vincent did anything of note, I'd guess at 2006. But yea, let's put him in the New Zealand team based on 2-3 innings. Talk about a slap in the face for guys that have actually worked hard for four plus years now.

Must be missing the part where Lou Vincent is actually quite a talented batsman, and better than your average NZ domestic journeyman.

But then I'm bias, I guess. Cue TH to come in say he's a talentless slogger.

[Hurricane]

Originally Posted by DIRK-NANNES

I agree, if I was a fella like Rob Nicol or Shanan

Positions 7 - 11:
* DL Vettori
JDP Oram
DR Tuffey
TG Southee
SE Bond

Top Order:
MJ Guptill
+ BB McCullum
SB Styris
LRPL Taylor
NT Broom
SL Stewart / RJ Nicol

or

BJ Watling
+ BB McCullum
MJ Guptill
LRPL Taylor
NT Broom
SB Styris

Broom, Styris or new guy's positions are interchangeable.

Like the inclusion of Styris. Two thumbs up.
Have mixed feelings about watling in there. Happy with him in the test team at the moment.
As for Broom I don't mind him being given a run in the test team. But would prefer to see shannan stewart over him in the ODI side just to try someone else.

You make good points about Vincent. But if he can put up another few good knocks will that change your mind. 3 innings are not enough you are right.

Personally I thought that Vincent got dropped too quickly last time around. his last 5 scores in 2007. Were poor -

6 9 18 5 and 0.

But Vincent started 2007 with
66 76 90 31 73