Trigger_Tiger
U19 Captain
He is not over-rated and he never was over-rated. However it seems that lately he has been doing everything in his power to prove his skeptics correct
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*Official* India in Bangladesh
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stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Seems that way. When will India be playing SA in SA next?
silentstriker
The Wheel is Forever
It's an amazing record for Dhoni, we'll see how long it lasts. He'll face a tough test against SA.
HMas
U19 12th Man
in Dec 2010 ....Inshallah Ind will be white washed in that series...
Sir Alex
Banned
Why? He came up against the best team in the world and traditionally spinner killers. It would be a huge learning curve for him.
Sanz
Hall of Fame Member
honestbharani
Whatever it takes!!!
So you need God's help to defeat India these days.. Not humanly possile anymore, is it?
Jungle Jumbo
International Vice-Captain
The whole Shakib is awesome thing got a bit out of hand before the series anyway. Aside from some decent performances (one on home tracks) against New Zealand and then in South Africa, all his success has really come against Zimbabwe. IMO he will the best allrounder in the world in ten years time, but he's got a long, long way to go.
The pressure of the captaincy undoubtedly told on Ashraful - look how many people here talked him up 2001-2005. Now Shakib has to cope with it and it could be telling on him as well. Since the end of the Zimbabwe series, his form with the bat has been patchy (in fact, dire in the DPL). I think a few posters here jumped on the Shakib bandwagon without really considering just who he is and where he has come from in such a short space of time.
The pressure of the captaincy undoubtedly told on Ashraful - look how many people here talked him up 2001-2005. Now Shakib has to cope with it and it could be telling on him as well. Since the end of the Zimbabwe series, his form with the bat has been patchy (in fact, dire in the DPL). I think a few posters here jumped on the Shakib bandwagon without really considering just who he is and where he has come from in such a short space of time.
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He was definitely under-rated earlier in his career, and the fact that he played for Bangladesh meant it took people a long time to realise he was actually a really talented player. At some stage the pendulum swung a bit too far the other way though and he developed a full-on cult. He's good, and he has serious potential, but he's not a world-beater. Not yet anyway.
Sir Alex
Banned
Haha 10 + 8 =18 in the firstHas anyone pointed out the obvious yet? Bangladesh didn't pick up 20 wickets in the 2nd test either
Then 8 + 0 = 8 in the second.
That translates into just 65% of the wickets required.
Jungle Jumbo
International Vice-Captain
Don't think he was ever underrated - picked out by TWC as Bangladesh's most promising player aged under 21 back in 2003 or 2004 I think (along with Ashraful), when he was about 15 and before he'd made a senior debut in any form of the game. He was just unknown. If you go right back to the start of the Bangladesh domestic thread, I (mispelling his name in a different way every time) talked him up a bit along with Mushfiq and Tamim. Admittedly that was just based on hearsay, but there was already talk about him in the media.
Like I said, I think a lot of people on here have over-reacted, with a slightly 'Oh cool, a Bangladeshi allrounder who could potentially be world-class' response. Tamim and Mushfiq both still have the potential to become greater cricketers, IMO.
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Pretty ordinary, one might say.
Anil
Hall of Fame Member
very much so...bangladesh still winless in tests...i am just glad india didn't gift them their 1st win on a platter...
Anil
Hall of Fame Member
don't laugh at his pain sanz, not good manners...
Black_Warrior
Cricketer Of The Year
I am going to say somethign very cliched and predictable. I think Bangladesh have improved. No not because they managed to score 300 in the fourth innings, and not because they got India out for 240 in the first test..but its the difference in the attitude of a few players that tells me that the cricket in that country is moving in the right direction.
Mohammad Ashraful scored a 150 against India 5 years ago but failed to prevent the follow on, in the second innings he got a duck, getting out in that very day.
Wasim Akram who was commentating asked him how come he looked in such great form in the first innings but got out to so cheaply in the second innings and his response was something like "i got tired" or something along those lines.
The attitude on display was despicable, Wasim blasted him later..many commetnators criticized him. It looked that by scoring 150, he thought his job was done..he was satisfied..the sin for a batsman to be satisfied after scoring some runs..a batsman's hunger for runs should never be satisfied.
But when Tamim Iqbal got out yesterday..he was not satisfied..he had hunger for more, for a 200. He did not think his job was done when he scored 150. Thats the improvement. It might have taken them 5 years..but atleast the attitude changed. It makes me feel hopeful.
I never rated him too highly as a batsman..I know Mushfiqur, Ashraful, Tamim are better than him..I rated him highly as a bowler and I still do...I dont think he did a bad job against possibly the best players of spin bowling..we have seen worse performances against this batting side from better spinners like Murali, Warne etc.
Sehwag didnt get a double century..nor was he able to blast Shakib all over the park. Thats an acheivement..
Mohammad Ashraful scored a 150 against India 5 years ago but failed to prevent the follow on, in the second innings he got a duck, getting out in that very day.
Wasim Akram who was commentating asked him how come he looked in such great form in the first innings but got out to so cheaply in the second innings and his response was something like "i got tired" or something along those lines.
The attitude on display was despicable, Wasim blasted him later..many commetnators criticized him. It looked that by scoring 150, he thought his job was done..he was satisfied..the sin for a batsman to be satisfied after scoring some runs..a batsman's hunger for runs should never be satisfied.
But when Tamim Iqbal got out yesterday..he was not satisfied..he had hunger for more, for a 200. He did not think his job was done when he scored 150. Thats the improvement. It might have taken them 5 years..but atleast the attitude changed. It makes me feel hopeful.
Well Shakib is not overrated...well that actually depends on how you rated him in the first place..
I never rated him too highly as a batsman..I know Mushfiqur, Ashraful, Tamim are better than him..I rated him highly as a bowler and I still do...I dont think he did a bad job against possibly the best players of spin bowling..we have seen worse performances against this batting side from better spinners like Murali, Warne etc.
Sehwag didnt get a double century..nor was he able to blast Shakib all over the park. Thats an acheivement..
Sir Alex
Banned
I agree with you completely regarding this. Shakib did very well as a bowler. To take a fifer against probably the best attack in the world now and particularly against spin is a wonderful achievement.
