Rank Orthodox spinners with no doosra

[Hurricane]

So this thread is related to the Harris vs. Hauritz vs. Swann thread and allows people to rank all the fingers spinners of this world. To qualify the spinner must be a orthodox finger spinner without a doosra. So Harbajhan and Ajmal are out - I don't have any stats but just from watching them they either get 10% of their wickets directly from the doosra or through the confusion that their next delivery could be a doosra and this is a big advantage. Granted someone said that Harbajhan doesn't bowl one often any more but have to draw the line somewhere. If this thread has been done before I apologize.

The goal is to rank the top 5 in order. To help with this please vote for up to 3 players. If I have missed a player you can vote for him by writing in your vote.

Batting skills or all round cricketing abilities are irrelevant. Just bowling. Please consider the amount of spin, guile, flight, accuracy, and tactical skill in making your votes.

 

[Jarquis]

I think it's a bit unfair to call some of those spinners "rank".

 

[BoyBrumby]

Jack McNamara's omission renders the exercise pointless, clearly.

 

[NZTailender]

Jack McNamara's omission renders the exercise pointless, clearly.

*sets watch*

 

[Uppercut]

I haven't really seen enough of Shakib or Herath to say, but Swann's the best of the others for mine.

 

[aussie]

Vettori, Herath, Swann IMO

 

[Hurricane]

Vettori, Herath, Swann IMO

Those are the three I voted for - but I was unsettled on my order.

Breaking it down I would rate them by these factors
Amount of Spin:
1) Herath
2) Swann
3) Vettori

Guile
1) Swann
2) Vettori
3) Herath

Flight / deception in the air
1) Vettori
2) Swann
3) Herath

Of these factors I think spin is the most important factor.
Which would suggest Herath - but his average is slightly higher suggesting that it has not helped him as much as you would think.

 

[Athlai]

Easy Swann, Vettori and Shakib. Shakib gets a fair bit more rip than even Herath, Vettori gets none but is a master of flight, Swann is better than everyone else at getting the best of both these worlds.

 

[Cruxdude]

Herath has the legendary carrom ball. So he should be disqualified from this poll.

 

[Anil]

what a legendary list!!!

 

[Migara]

Herath has the legendary carrom ball. So he should be disqualified from this poll.

He doesn't use it much unless he' s in deep ****, as in Indian tour. But that carom ball was too good for some Indians.

 

[stephen]

Orthodox spinners are left handed. Most of these are right handed.

I think you mean "finger spinners".

 

[jeevan]

Has there ever been an SLA with a doosra? Cant think of one, and this list is heavily represented with them.

Mendis is not included due to his carrom ball? Which isnt the (somewhat dubious) doosra but a doubt-creater any way..

 

[James90]

Gavin Ewing is a rank finger spinner with no doosra.

 

[Hurricane]

1) From Cricinfo "Although classified as a right-arm, slow-medium bowler, Ajantha Mendis is a spinner who bowls a mixture of googlies, offbreaks, top-spinners, flippers and legbreaks."

2) Herath - might have been better to have left him out given that info - but we will leave him in since the voting is well under way.

3) I was actually looking for a ranking of these spinners in order. Are people fine with us taking the voting results as our collective ranking of who is best. IE the person with the most votes is regarded as the best finger spinner (without a doosra) in the world followed by whoever comes in second? Feel free to post who you think is best overall followed by second and third.

 

[James90]

3) I was actually looking for a ranking of these spinners in order. Are people fine with us taking the voting results as our collective ranking of who is best. IE the person with the most votes is regarded as the best finger spinner in the world followed by whoever comes in second? Feel free to post who you think is best overall followed by second and third.

A bit harsh on Murali, one feels.

 

[Hurricane]

A bit harsh on Murali, one feels.

Made an edit to my post to say "without a doosra"

 

[vic_orthdox]

Jack McNamara's omission renders the exercise pointless, clearly.

At least these blokes would get a game in their local club's first XI. Unlike the man mentioned in your post...

Only scalps I seem to claim these days are on the circuit

 

[Richard]

Orthodox spinners are left handed. Most of these are right handed.

I think you mean "finger spinners".

"Orthodox spinner" is just a eupehemism for fingerspinner. "Orthodox left-arm spinner" would be left-arm fingerspinner.

Needless term really - "fingerspinner" does fine.

 

[Richard]

what a legendary list!!!

By definition such bowlers - standard fingerspin bowlers who do not possess a Doosra - will never be particularly good bowlers in the covered-wickets era. Conditions around the planet no longer see sufficient spin-friendly decks for them to have widespread success.