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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Adams was clearly pretty hopeless and not surprisingly so either, but he's a wristspinner and that applies to most of them.
    I never saw much of Paul Adams, but why exactly was he clearly hopeless? Even taking away his record against Bangladesh, his record is still pretty good for a wrist spinner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot View Post
    I never saw much of Paul Adams, but why exactly was he clearly hopeless? Even taking away his record against Bangladesh, his record is still pretty good for a wrist spinner.
    Because Richard said so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot View Post
    I never saw much of Paul Adams, but why exactly was he clearly hopeless? Even taking away his record against Bangladesh, his record is still pretty good for a wrist spinner.
    He was dangerous when he started out, he was so unorthadox that people struggled to play him (without bursting into laughter). But once he was found out, he was pretty ordinary and became hopeless.

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    Why can't this thread be re-named to its by-line - "Battle of the Tard Slowies"? Like asking who batted best out of Alderman, McGrath and Chris Martin.
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    Hauritz is a accurate spinner but he doesn't get enough turn especially on the 4th/5th day wickets. His variations aren't good enough to make up for the lack of spin compared to Vettori and Kumble.

    Swann is the most attacking of the lot and his FC and Test stats show that from the amount of 5 fers he has. Didn't have the best Ashes and was outbowled by Hauritz in the games he played but he looked the more dangerous of the two.

    Harris has the height factor and SLA which seems to be a good mix for the tight line spinners. Both him and Benn like the bouncy pitches in Aus. The spin away from the right handers is also useful and the extra bounce can cause problems at times. He has more 5 fers than Hauritz both in Test and FC which shows hes capable of winning a match on his day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvester View Post
    Hauritz is a accurate spinner but he doesn't get enough turn especially on the 4th/5th day wickets. His variations aren't good enough to make up for the lack of spin compared to Vettori and Kumble.
    I used to think that Vettori > Hauritz - but I think Hauritz gives it more a rip than Vettori. His accuracy is acceptable as well. And Vettori doesn't have a good history on 4th/5th day wickets either.

    I like the loop that Hauritz gets.

    Is it generally accepted that Vettori is >> than all of the three spinners highlighted in this thread?

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    More useful cricketer, certainly, but possibly a weaker bowler than any of them too. Even Harris gives it more of a rip. Vettori is clever bowler, but doesn't have the basic armoury of even Hauritz based on the little I've seen of the latter.
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    I think Swann is the better bowler and cricketer among these guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SirBloody Idiot View Post
    I never saw much of Paul Adams, but why exactly was he clearly hopeless? Even taking away his record against Bangladesh, his record is still pretty good for a wrist spinner.
    As was said to some extent, he had some amount of success early on due to the utterly extraordinary nature of his action which meant some people just struggled to play him. He never really threatened much.

    If you'd watched him much you'd realise he had so little going for him - only bowled one delivery (the Googly), and though it turned plenty, he struggled to pitch more than a couple per over in the right spot by-and-large.
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    Interesting question with Murali's clear decline: If tomorrow, a spin-assisting tracks were assured and you needed a spinner for one series (out of all the spinners who are currently played), which spinner would you pick, and in which order? How many would pick Swann, or Harby, for example, over Murali at this point?
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Interesting question with Murali's clear decline: If tomorrow, a spin-assisting tracks were assured and you needed a spinner for one series (out of all the spinners who are currently played), which spinner would you pick, and in which order? How many would pick Swann, or Harby, for example, over Murali at this point?
    Would still pick Murali any day of any week myself TBH. That might change as hindsight creeps in but at the current time I'd still say I'd back him to outbowl any spinner going around.

    Maybe in 2014 I'll say "in late 2009 Swann would've been a better pick than Murali" but I think that has to remain to be seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Interesting question with Murali's clear decline: If tomorrow, a spin-assisting tracks were assured and you needed a spinner for one series (out of all the spinners who are currently played), which spinner would you pick, and in which order? How many would pick Swann, or Harby, for example, over Murali at this point?
    Still Murali everytime for me although I would also take Imran Tahir bowlng like he did for Hampshire in 2008.

    Interesting to see where Mendis fits in all of this, a tad worried about how is going to go for us, am just hoping at the moment that the county batsmen will be confused by him m but has looked very unthreatening of late.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentstriker View Post
    Interesting question with Murali's clear decline: If tomorrow, a spin-assisting tracks were assured and you needed a spinner for one series (out of all the spinners who are currently played), which spinner would you pick, and in which order? How many would pick Swann, or Harby, for example, over Murali at this point?
    Would take Mishra myself.

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