Harris vs. Hauritz vs. Swann - Page 21

zaremba · 25-01-2010, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by social

Not really

Swann has a technical problem that basically results in him bowling slow and relatively innocuous in-slant to the righties from over the wicket - there's minimal drift, bugger all spin and moderate accuracy

In short, he's distinctly average

However, around the wicket, he's a decidedly different proposition because his arm is no longer past the perpendicular and he gets drift and spin > domination of lefties

Anyway, as I've said before, Swann is overrated because he's compared to Giles/Panesar whilst Hauritz is underrated because he has huge shoes to fill

Bugger all spin

Sylvester · 25-01-2010, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by FBU

Swann

Right handers
362.0 overs 1206 runs 28 wickets - 43.07 econ 3.33 s/r 77.57

Left handers
338.5 overs 912 runs 41 wickets - 22.24 econ 2.69 s/r 49.58

I'm sure Hauritz would have similar figures, he looks so much more dangerous to the lefties because the ball is spinning away.

Uppercut · 26-01-2010, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by zaremba

Bugger all spin

Hahaha indeed.

Migara · 26-01-2010, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by silentstriker

I think it would be exciting - could Swann be the first spinner to dominate India over a series in a long time?

There are spinners who have dominated India over a series. Murali twice, Mendis and Saqlain have done it.

Uppercut · 26-01-2010, 07:31 AM

Actually yeah, Mendis had them crushed and embarrassed. Swann would be the first in a little while.

silentstriker · 26-01-2010, 08:37 AM

I meant at home. Yes, Medis really dominated and Murali has done well in SL.

aussie · 20-08-2010, 06:49 PM

ATS its clearly Swann>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Harris>>Haurtiz. But somehow i fear this may not be unanimous POV on CW ATM.

vic_orthdox · 20-08-2010, 06:54 PM

I'd definitely take Hauritz in front of the current version of Harris, who has been particularly toothless of late.

Noble One · 20-08-2010, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by aussie

ATS its clearly Swann>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Harris>>Haurtiz. But somehow i fear this may not be unanimous POV on CW ATM.

I can understand that you don't rate Hauritz, but to rate him behind Harris? Paul Harris has been horrible for well over a year, wouldn't be a shock to see South Africa drop him.

aussie · 20-08-2010, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Noble One

I can understand that you don't rate Hauritz, but to rate him behind Harris? Paul Harris has been horrible for well over a year, wouldn't be a shock to see South Africa drop him.

The best of Harris is still better than Hauritz, even if as jack said he has looked a bit flat since he took that 5 wicket haul @ Centurion vs ENG last winter, which is under a year ago.

The best of Harris has taken 5 wicket hauls againts good opposition on wearing or 5th day wickets. Hauritz is yet to do so, so Harris is slightly better still ATS.

Cruxdude · 20-08-2010, 08:24 PM

I don't think Harris deserves to be called a spinner. Slow left arm wide down the leg side bowler might be more appropriate.

Migara · 21-08-2010, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Uppercut

I'm not "using" it, but fact is he's far better at bowling to lefties. I'd find Swann vs. Ganguly or Lara more interesting than Swann vs. Sehwag or Tendulkar.

Ha, ha! wait for the Raina vs Swann drama. Raina is probably the best left hander against spin ATM.

slowfinger · 21-08-2010, 05:39 AM

It's quite obvious that Swann>Hauritz, now it's just getting ridiculous.

But Cherries> Oranges TBF

GIMH · 21-08-2010, 05:42 AM

Basically the only reason the Hauritz argument gathered any momentum AFAICS is because Swann bombed at Cardiff where Hauritz did well. Nevermind that Swann bowled England to victory twice in the rest of the series or anything.

But yeah, I'd be interested to see anyone still maintaining Hauritz is the better bowler.

Ikki · 21-08-2010, 02:01 PM

Hauritz is better. Swann's a pom.

To GIMH, Swann also bombed at Birmingham. Hauritz was the better spinner in that series.

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Uppercut Cricket Web: All-Time Legend Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Norn Iron Posts: 21,789	Actually yeah, Mendis had them crushed and embarrassed. Swann would be the first in a little while.

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aussie Hall of Fame Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Cricket Posts: 16,845	ATS its clearly Swann>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >Harris>>Haurtiz. But somehow i fear this may not be unanimous POV on CW ATM.

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