Harris vs. Hauritz vs. Swann

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Originally Posted by Uppercut

But you can show Swann's superiority statistically anyway. Batsmen average 37.10 in matches involving Swann and 32.66 in matches involving Hauritz. In other words, Swann's bowled on much, much more batsman-friendly pitches than Hauritz has, but they both come out with the same average. Something that anyone who's followed both their careers will know anyway, but it's good to show it in numbers.

So what you're saying is that matches involving Bangladesh are played on much more batsman-friendly pitches than those involving Australia? Surely we're ignoring a variable here, like the general quality of the bowling attack.

[Dan]

Well, I doubt Swannie of Harris would have held on to that catch that (arguably) turned the match into Australia's favour. 2 Michelle's for Haurie in the last 2 tests and being Australian give him the edge to me :P

[BoyBrumby]

Thought Harris had a shocker today, ftr. Duminy outbowled him and then some.

[gwo]

Originally Posted by vic_orthdox

I reckon Swann's a better bowler, not by that much though. And I'm just really enjoying watching a guy grow into his role as a Test cricketer, especially one who copped a lot of unfair criticism. Sheffield Shield cricket is pretty unforgiving as a spinner, and I think a lot of people forget that.

They also don't understand that subtlety is the greatest variation a spinner can have, and that's something that doesn't get picked up by armchair critics.

QFT.


Swann marginally ahead still but really impressed by how both have performed tbh.

[Neil Pickup]

Originally Posted by rvd619323

Well, I doubt Swannie of Harris would have held on to that catch that (arguably) turned the match into Australia's favour. 2 Michelle's for Haurie in the last 2 tests and being Australian give him the edge to me :P

Hauritz has got some serious guts - that was a brilliant, brave take and the way he kept on bowling in the second dig despite having had his hand redesigned at Lord's was impressive as well.

I'm still taking Swanneh, but Hauritz is doing a fine job in the role Australia want for a spinner to do right now, and he can be very pleased with the way he's got on. Nonetheless, I won't be losing sleep about him next winter.

[Uppercut]

Originally Posted by Mr Mxyzptlk

So what you're saying is that matches involving Bangladesh are played on much more batsman-friendly pitches than those involving Australia? Surely we're ignoring a variable here, like the general quality of the bowling attack.

The quality of the batting lineup too. But I reckon England have a better attack and worse batting lineup than Australia so really that's also in favour of Swanneh.

And if you're not willing to buy that, you can just have watched their respective careers so far to know Swanneh's played on the flattest of flatties.

[Son Of Coco]

Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero

I'd never really seen Hauritz bowl before the Ashes. Upon hearing all the talk of him I expected to see the sort of delivery that I tend to send down, so he certainly is a LOT better than people make out. I do actually think he's a good bowler, I just think Swannehhhh is better, but then Swannehhhhh is the Bradman of bowling so it's all good

So you're predicting he'll end up with a bowling average of 99.94? Interesting.

[Ikki]

Originally Posted by Son Of Coco

So you're predicting he'll end up with a bowling average of 99.94? Interesting.

And it's going, going, gone! 6 runs.

[Craig]

My opinion on Hauritz this summer has changed a lot and I do rate him as a Tets bowler, the Pakistani batsmen have underestimated him at times and look at what has happened to them. I see him ATM as someone who is getting the most out of his ability as a bowler at Test. Obviously the real acid test will be when/if he comes up against India and Sehwag is in one of his 'moods' where he is smashing all and sundry to all parts of the cricket ground. Whether or not he will hold his nerve when Sehwag is thinking "letz hitz sixez' and go for plenty or do what Krejza did and pick up 8 wickets in an innings.

[GingerFurball]

Originally Posted by Craig

My opinion on Hauritz this summer has changed a lot and I do rate him as a Tets bowler, the Pakistani batsmen have underestimated him at times and look at what has happened to them. I see him ATM as someone who is getting the most out of his ability as a bowler at Test. Obviously the real acid test will be when/if he comes up against India and Sehwag is in one of his 'moods' where he is smashing all and sundry to all parts of the cricket ground. Whether or not he will hold his nerve when Sehwag is thinking "letz hitz sixez' and go for plenty or do what Krejza did and pick up 8 wickets in an innings.

Basically a better version of Harris.

[NasserFan207]

Yeah, I've only ever seen Hauritz really spin one using the rough. However, he gets good bounce, drift and flight, which make him acceptable as a test offie.

[Matt79]

Originally Posted by Craig

My opinion on Hauritz this summer has changed a lot and I do rate him as a Tets bowler, the Pakistani batsmen have underestimated him at times and look at what has happened to them. I see him ATM as someone who is getting the most out of his ability as a bowler at Test. Obviously the real acid test will be when/if he comes up against India and Sehwag is in one of his 'moods' where he is smashing all and sundry to all parts of the cricket ground. Whether or not he will hold his nerve when Sehwag is thinking "letz hitz sixez' and go for plenty or do what Krejza did and pick up 8 wickets in an innings.

Are there any spinners in the world would wouldn't have a tough day in the office if they come across Sehwag-in-the-mood on an unresponsive deck?

[Ikki]

[GIMH]

Swann just got MOTS in an away series to Saffa in case it passed you by

[Jono]

Lol nice.