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    What exactly does this "bogan" mean? I'd always presumed it was a fairly broad term along the lines of "****", "****", "****", "****" and "numpty", but this thread seems to suggest there's more to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    What exactly does this "bogan" mean? I'd always presumed it was a fairly broad term along the lines of "****", "****", "****", "****" and "numpty", but this thread seems to suggest there's more to it.
    Good old Wikipedia informs me it's the Aus/NZ equivalent of "chav" or "pikey". Basically, someone from a lower class background.

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    Yeah, I'd always assumed it was broadly analogous to "chav" in the UK, although it seems to be wider in its application as you can be a bogan at any age, whereas chav is more aimed at the young underclass.

    "Pikey" is actually a more specific insult tho; was originally a slur on gypsies or travellers.
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    Bogans in NZ generally wear black jeans and t-shirts dedicated to whiskey/bourbon/other hard liquor brands (or black singlets if they can't afford t-shirts), drive old cars such as a Ford Falcon and Holden Commodores and occasionally dabble in weed.

    Basically Perm multiplied by about 400,000.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    Good old Wikipedia informs me it's the Aus/NZ equivalent of "chav" or "pikey". Basically, someone from a lower class background.
    I see. Not that I'm a fan of the term CHAV (strictly speaking it is actually an acronym - council housed and violent) but if this thread was "has more money made the England cricketers CHAVs?" I'd think "haha, bad use of terminology there".

    Surely "has more money made the Australian cricketers ****s?" would've been better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    What exactly does this "bogan" mean? I'd always presumed it was a fairly broad term along the lines of "****", "****", "****", "****" and "numpty", but this thread seems to suggest there's more to it.
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    I always assumed that it was the Australian version of a hillbilly or a country bumpkin.
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    Lol, I think if anything the Australian team at the moment is far less bogan than it has been for much of the recent past...look at some of the sides from the late 80's and early 90's for example..

    You had Warne, Merv Hughes, Boonie (Bogan idol), Dean Jones, Border, Mike Whitney, Bruce Reid...several borderline bogans like Slater, Taylor, Mark Waugh.

    There are only really 2 to 4 genuine bogans in or around the side at the moment..
    Bollinger and Siddle = obvious bogans
    Haddin, Johnson = pretty similar
    Stuart Clark, Mike Hussey, Clint McKay = University educated..not bogans
    Shane Watson and Michael Clarke = wax their chests, wear designer clothing, appear in underwear ads and date famous women...about as un-bogan as you'll find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrew Pollock View Post
    I guess what i am asking are bogans overrepresented in the current side.

    If bogans say make up 20% of the population, they should have only one or two bogans in the side. But the current make up is more like 80-90%.

    Why are is there more Haddins in the side than Stuey Clark's?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iamdavid View Post
    Shane Watson and Michael Clarke = wax their chests, wear designer clothing, appear in underwear ads and date famous women...about as un-bogan as you'll find.
    They are part of a bogan sub-set: Lady/boy bogans

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    I see. Not that I'm a fan of the term CHAV (strictly speaking it is actually an acronym - council housed and violent) but if this thread was "has more money made the England cricketers CHAVs?" I'd think "haha, bad use of terminology there".

    Surely "has more money made the Australian cricketers ****s?" would've been better?
    Don't think you can be strict about it at all, tbh. Was under the impression no-one knows the One True Origin. Anyone know whether it's related to 'chavo'? Has a similar meaning after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Don't think you can be strict about it at all, tbh. Was under the impression no-one knows the One True Origin. Anyone know whether it's related to 'chavo'? Has a similar meaning after all.
    Think Richards explanation is a myth, there were loads of explinations of its origins given around the time that it came into common use. Like any social label of course it took on a meaning of its own and came to encompass all sort of different groups and people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Cat View Post
    Don't think you can be strict about it at all, tbh. Was under the impression no-one knows the One True Origin. Anyone know whether it's related to 'chavo'? Has a similar meaning after all.
    Not sure if there is an absolutely accepted origin - one of the reasons I'm not keen on it is that it isn't really a word at all, it's just vague slang - but that's one I've heard many times. Wouldn't be at all surprised if that's where it came from.

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    David Beckham does all that and he's a bogan if ever I saw one. And Mark Waugh loves the trots = bogan.

    Of the current set up -
    Katich - non bogan
    Watson - metrosexual bogan
    Ponting - bogan made good
    Hussey - non bogan
    Clarke - metrosexual bogan
    North - non bogan I'd say
    Haddin - non bogan
    Johnson - metrosexual, but not bogan IMO
    Hauritz - Non bogan
    Siddle - Bogan
    Bollinger - Bogan
    Hilfenhaus - Tasmanian
    Hughes - Bogan
    Clark - non bogan
    McKay - non bogan
    Lee - metrosexual but not bogan
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    Tasmanians don't fit the bogan ring then? They can't be bogans regardless?

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