Boring maybe but all facts.
Irrelevant facts. The pitch played poorly, thats all that matters.
Yes the match officials knew when they were scheduling the test match that it was going to rain on Day 1, Didn't they ?
Poster Honestbharani just said
honesbharani said:
It didn't JUST rain on day 1.. It was raining for a whole bloody month prior to it, which I would THINK can hamper pitch preparation.. [/B]And not like Punter didn't know about it.. Would have to be an even bigger idiot than I think he is to not have noticed something that was front page news in India during the whole tour...
So if the locals knew about this month long rain before the test along with & as you are claiming it affected pitch preparation. Then the option the change the test match was potentially very much there.
The fact that you remember a test from 1998 yet continue to miss a test that was played in australia in the year 2004 itself, tells that your intentions. Why not talk about the 2004 Test match that was played in Australia @ Darwin ? Let's see what you have to say about that wicket and please explain why you continue to ignore it. '
STOP STOPPPPP.
- Firstly WTF does Darwin 2004 have to do about this?
- Secondly WTF are my intentions?
- Thirdly yes i saw the Darwin test is war as poor as Mumbai 2004, so whats your ponint??
- Fourthy how is Darwin 2004 comparable to Kingston 98 & Antigua 2006 as dangerous test wickets??
It seems it did matter because Mumbai is still hosting test matches and that kinda shows that the reasons were valid.
How does Mumbai hosting test now have to matter with the FACT that the pitch in 2004 played poorly?
I wonder why they have not scheduled another test match at Darwin since 2004.
This boy is a clown..
Because Australia dont usually play tests in Northern Territory historically & AUS dont usally play test in July. Everybody knows AUS summer of cricket (internationally & domestically) is from October to March. Any more crap you wish to talk about??
Oh Really ? So Ponting has never complained about the pitch in last 6 years ?
You clearly cant read i said PONTING HAS NEVER COMPLAINED ABOUT THE MUMBAI 2004 PITCH SINCE THE THAT POST MATCH INTERVIEW ON NOVEMEMBER 4TH 2004. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THISSS???. I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY OTHER COMPLAINTS
Yes i know Ponting tends to whine alot, thats is clear. But what i dont get is how you people are making such a big deal out of it. Why should you care about a cricketers personality??. All we as cricket fans should care about is what they do on cricket field. FULL STOP
YOOOO this argument has gone to the dogs. Yo did even manage to read what Ponting said this is nothing more than a exaggerated media headline. Nowhere did Ponting criticize that Centurion pitch - he made a factual comment about what occured during the second innings when AUS batted.
quote said:
I never thought it would get that close when we were 138 for two with 20 overs left. But then I got out and it was not an easy pitch," Ponting told a news conference.
"If you lost a wicket, then it was really hard for the incoming batsman. If the bowler took the pace off then it was not easy to get the ball away and particularly hard to get boundaries.
"But we snuck across the line and we're where we want to be in the semi-finals," Ponting said.
Where did Ponting blast the Centurion pitch?. I dont know much or what credibility that link you posted has. But this i was Ponting said according to
cricinfo
quote said:
"I was chewing my fingers nails up there for the last little bit," Ponting said after the game. "That ended up being closer than I thought was possible. We snuck across the line."
The result left Australia on top of Group A with five points, compared to Pakistan's four, which means they'll face England, the second-placed team in Group B, in the first semi-final in Centurion on Friday. Australia came to South Africa having won a bilateral one-day series 6-1 in England but despite that success Ponting was wary of a resurgent England team.
"We've just come from a really good series against them over there, but it's different conditions here to what we confronted over there and they've been playing some pretty good cricket of late," Ponting said. "We need to get back to the drawing board a little bit and talk about what went wrong in the last part with our batting this afternoon and make sure we don't do that again on Friday.
"As the ball got older it reversed a bit at the end and spun a bit for the spinners too so we were pretty lucky we restricted them to that total. I thought the bowlers in the second half of the innings particularly, did a good job."
Ready to give up now haha
This is how i know you either dont watch Australian cricket or know nothing about how Perth plays while totally misinterprenting what Ponting said here.
quote said:
Skipper Ricky Ponting was left disappointed by a flat wicket at Perth's WACA ground, saying the venue was rapidly losing its unique reputation for being a fast bowler's paradise.
Ponting was quick to point out the pitch wasn't responsible for Australia's six-wicket loss to South Africa in the first Test, as the Proteas made 4-414, the second-highest successful Test run chase in history.
But Ponting did say he was disappointed with the slow pitch prepared by curator Cameron Sutherland that offered bowlers from both sides very little movement off the deck, as shown by South Africa compiling over 400 runs in its second innings with relative ease.
And, the Australian skipper only just backed away from accusing the Western Australian Cricket Association of preparing dull pitches for Test matches in order to ensure the game went for five days, thereby maximising revenue from television coverage and gate receipts.
"The beauty of playing cricket in Australia is that you get a vast array of conditions all around Australia," Ponting said.
"I just got a bit of a feeling at the moment that this place has just lost whatever it had as far as its uniqueness."
"This Test match is basically being played on a wicket like Adelaide, it's not a WACA wicket whatsoever and we can all make judgments over why that might be."
"At the end of the day it's not an excuse, it's not the reason why we lost the game, we weren't good enough to take 10 wickets today and we weren't good enough to take them out of the game with out second batting innings."
"(But) I'm disappointed because of the result and I'm disappointed because the uniqueness of the WACA that it once had, that we keep hearing about every year, it appears that it's always there for all the state games but it's just not there for Test matches, which is I think pretty disappointing," he added.
When asked specifically whether the WACA might be preparing a flat Test wicket to maximise profits, Ponting simply replied: "I'm not telling you anything."
Pitch curator Sutherland has previously said the WACA pitches are undergoing a significant re-development phase, adding the venue's wickets were in the process of all being re-laid.
He said they were unlikely to have the pace and bounce that made them so feared during the 1980s and 90s for another couple of seasons and added that a crowded schedule of domestic and international matches played at the ground this year would hinder the process.
The crowded fixture has been caused by the aborted Champions Twenty20 League, which forced Cricket Australia to schedule four Sheffield Shield matches for the Warriors at the venue from October to November, along with several Ford Ranger Cup clashes.
. Is WTF really really going on here, AFAICS this looks like some deep seeded hatred/dislike towards Ponting just pooring out.
Everybody who follows AUS cricket has been very disapointed at how Perth has
been playing like a road in recent years. Ponting was clearly right to be disappointed at what occured, BUT AS THIS QUOTE CLEARLYYYY shows Ponting never BLAMED THE PITCH FOR AUSTRALIA'S DEFEAT...
This happened at Perth again vs SA 05. A disappointingly flat pitch.
This was indeed probably a whine if he was blaming a poor practise session for the loss in the 2nd ODI. But as i said before who cares, Ponting & a weakened AUS team stepped up a beat IND, so it doesn't matter to me..
Ummm...Let me see, just like all others claims made by you it turns out to be untrue as well.
. Nah uncle see above, only thing true about those examples abouve this that you are either a mad man, know nothing about AUS cricket or just had a STRONG personal dislike for Ponting...
Ponting does have a habit of blaming the pitch when things do not go his way.
Yea you have found 3 examples since Mumbai 2004 (along with this thread) & its a "habit"
- Australia have lost the Ashes TWICEEE is ENG did Ponting blame the pitch any time? NOOO
- Australia lost in IND 2008/09, did he blame the pitch any time? NOOOO
- AUS where knocked out of the T20 WC 2008 early, Did Ponting blame the pitches? NOOOOO
While you are at it, why don dont go through EVERY SINGLE TEST/ODI/T20 defeat AUS has had under Ponting since Mumbai 04 & tell us how much of those defeats Ponting has blamed on the wicket...
So before you ask us to get a life, you need to check your facts. Dont just start making things up.
You are the ONLY one making stuff up, my facts is the only thing credible in this debate. Some of yall Indian posters are just bloody mad...yall make people like SJS look badd