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  • GingerFurball's team

    1 3.70%
  • metallics2006's team

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  • Marc71178's team

    2 7.41%
  • NUFAN's team

    5 18.52%
  • stephen's team

    1 3.70%
  • BoyBrumby's team

    3 11.11%
  • Matt79's team

    5 18.52%
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Thread: Come vote on the 90s and 00s banlist draft final teams

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    Come vote on the 90s and 00s banlist draft final teams

    Over the last few weeks, we have been running a draft for players of the last 20 years. Please vote on which team is the best. Please remember that players were picked on the basis of their performances in the 90s and 00s. Players with significant careers outside those eras have their 90s stats next to their names.

    Players were unable to select anyone from either of the two teams selected as the "best team of the decade" until the final two rounds. In round 10 players could select from the 90s team and in round 11 players could select from the 00s team. These two teams were:

    90s:

    Boon
    Gooch
    Tendulkar
    Lara
    De Silva
    S Waugh
    Healy
    Warne
    Akram
    Ambrose
    Donald

    00s:

    Hayden
    G Smith
    Ponting
    Dravid
    Sangakkara
    Kallis
    Gilchrist
    Pollock
    Steyn
    McGrath
    Murali


    Here are the final teams that were selected. Please decide which one you think would be the most successful team.

    bunny

    Graeme Smith
    Saeed Anwar
    Simon Katich
    Allan Border (c) (45 Matches, 2686 runs, 43.32 ave, 4 100s)
    Salim Malik
    Robin Smith
    Brendon McCullum (wk)
    Merv Hughes
    Anil Kumble
    Ian Bishop
    Curtly Ambrose

    1) Captain = AB
    2) Slip catchers = Smith, AB, gullies = Katich, Malik, Smith
    3) Imho, easily the best bowling lineup in this draft. A spinning pitch and Kumble will wreck havoc. A seaming wicket and I bet no other team will cross 250.
    A batting wicket and Ambrose, Kumble and co will try to restrict the opponents to as low as possible.
    4) Batting is strong enough to deal against fast bowling: Smith, AB and Graeme Smith. I've got good quality batsmen to deal with spin: Malik, Anwar, Katich.
    Good mix of lefties and righties. Aggressive batsmen down the order to take control of the game (Smith, Malik and Mccullum) and fighters (AB, Smith and Katich) at the top of the order.
    5) AB and Katich can do the spinning duties if required at all.

    Weaknesses:
    a) The lower order can hang around but none of them is likely to contribute a 50, let alone a 100.
    b) McCullum can tend to be a bit aggressive and lose his wicket.

    But, all in all a fairly balanced and strong team.
    GingerFurball

    Tillakaratne Dilshan
    Gary Kirsten
    Justin Langer
    Mohammad Azharuddin (c)
    Mark Waugh
    VVS Laxman
    Chris Cairns
    Ian Healy (wk)
    Brett Lee
    Mohammad Asif
    Glenn McGrath

    metallics2006

    Matthew Hayden
    Phil Jaques
    Daryll Cullinan
    Damien Martyn
    Andrew Symonds
    Daniel Vettori (c)
    MS Dhoni (wk)
    Fanie de Villiers
    Javagal Srinath
    Makhaya Ntini
    Alan Donald

    - Middle order isn't flashy but has what it takes to do the job in tests. Not extravagant but dependable.

    - Got Vettori to keep it economical and give rest to the pace bowlers which is the strength of my side.

    - Got a keeper who is decent and can also score at a pace that he chooses in matches.

    - Got Symonds in the lower middle order to get some quick runs when a situation arises.

    - Got one of the best openers of recent times at the top in Hayden partnered by Jaques who is not a pushover himself.

    - Don't need to say much about the bowling which speaks for itself. Donald, Fanie, Srinath and Ntini in the side. Donald and Fanie will open the bowling with Srinath and Ntini bowling first change

    Marc71178

    Gautam Gambhir
    Chris Gayle
    Rahul Dravid
    Graeme Thorpe
    Michael Clarke
    Ashwell Prince
    Jack Russell (wk)
    Shane Warne (c)
    Stuart Clark
    Jason Gillespie
    Angus Fraser

    NUFAN

    Michael Atherton
    Virender Sehwag
    Stephen Fleming (c)
    Kevin Pietersen
    Jacques Kallis
    Aravinda de Silva
    Brad Haddin (wk)
    Mitchell Johnson
    Chaminda Vaas
    Saqlain Mushtaq
    Shane Bond

    * Bond to take the new ball with Chaminda Vaas.
    * Johnson first change with Kallis
    * Saqlain is obviously the main spinner, but potential partnership breakers and bowlers on spinning tracks include Sehwag and de Silva.
    * Fleming the obvious captain, he's one of the most tactically astute captains from the past 20 years.
    * RH and LH opening pair, aggressive batters in Sehwag and Pietersen blend in nicely with correct players such as Atherton and Kallis.
    * A long tail with number 10 Saqlain having scored a century.
    * Fleming 1st slip, Kallis 2nd slip.
    stephen

    Michael Slater
    Marcus Trescothick
    Herschelle Gibbs
    Brian Lara
    Shivnarine Chanderpaul
    Hashan Tillakaratne
    Mark Boucher (wk)
    Harbhajan Singh
    Craig McDermott (47 Matches, 211 wickets @ 26.52, 4.49 wpm)
    Dale Steyn
    Courtney Walsh (c)

    My core team is centered around 3 of the 4 West Indian greats from the 90s - Lara, Chanderpaul and Walsh. Though this time they have much better support players, with a very strong opening pair in Trescothic and Slater (who, in retrospect probably deserved the opener of the 90s instead of Boon). Herschelle Gibbs at 3 and Lara at 4 give the batting some flair in the middle order, which is balanced by the grit and determination of Chanderpaul and Tillakaratne. Boucher is one of the best keepers of the last two decades, who now holds a number of keeping world records. The bowling attack is ferocious, with McDermott and Steyn acting as spearheads for their respective sides and Walsh being an all time great in his own right. Harbhajan Singh is also one of the most accomplished spinners out there.

    All in all bowlers win matches, but only if the batsmen make enough runs. I believe that I have the best pace attack out there, which is backed up by a highly accomplished spinner. My batting is strong and well balanced all the way down, though it has some vulnerability in the tail. Perhaps the weakness of this side is the captaincy, with no player able to be considered a great captain. Nevertheless I believe that this side would be competative with any real historical side.
    BoyBrumby

    Desmond Haynes (31 Matches, 2147 runs, 44.72 ave, 6 100s)
    Navjot Sidhu (38 Matches, 2517 runs, 44.94 ave, 7 100s)
    Ricky Ponting
    SR Tendulkar
    Mahela Jayawardene (c)
    MEK Hussey
    AJ Stewart (wk)
    BM McMillan
    PR Reiffel
    SP Jones
    Shoaib Ahktar

    Matt79

    Andrew Strauss
    Michael Vaughan (c)
    Kumar Sangakkara
    Younis Khan
    Sourav Ganguly
    Andy Flower (wk)
    Andrew Flintoff
    Wasim Akram
    Heath Streak
    Damien Fleming
    Stuart MacGill

    I'm pretty happy with it. The middle order is solid but stylish, the openers are decent and the attack is varied and solid, with Akram the undoubted star and X factor for the team.
    Somerset

    John Wright (18 matches, 1662 runs, 55.40 ave, 5 hundreds)
    Graham Gooch
    Martin Crowe (c) (32 matches, 2317 runs, 45.43 ave, 7 hundreds)
    David Gower (11 matches, 848 runs, 53.00 ave, 3 hundreds)
    AB de Villiers (wk)
    Thilan Samaraweera
    Imran Khan (9 matches, 545 runs @ 60.55, 8 wickets @ 29.62, 0.89 wpm)
    Kapil Dev (28 matches, 1002 runs @ 31.31, 75 wickets @ 32.24, 2.68 wpm)
    Waqar Younis
    Muttiah Muralitharan
    Bruce Reid (9 matches, 51 wickets @ 18.58)

    Blakus

    Mark Taylor (c)
    Sanath Jayasuriya
    Inzamam ul Haq
    Mohammad Yousuf
    Steve Waugh
    Darren Lehmann
    Richard Hadlee (7 matches, 240 runs @ 34.28, 35 wickets @ 23.2, 5 wpm)
    Shaun Pollock
    Prasanna Jayawardene (wk)
    Malcolm Marshall (15 matches, 372 runs @ 18.6, 50 wickets @ 23.54, 3.3 wpm)
    Darren Gough

    My teams strength is its fantastic balance. A fantastic middle order is well backed up by a solid opening pair and dangerous hitters the lower order.
    The pace attack is perhaps the best out of everyone. With three genuine all time greats in Hadlee, Marshall and Pollock and exceptional support from Gough, any batting line-up is going to have trouble.
    Throw in three very handy part timers in Waugh, Jayasuriya and Lehmann, the astute captaincy of Taylor, and the dependable keeping of Jayawardene and my team becomes one of the toughest to beat.
    Last edited by stephen; 14-12-2009 at 04:50 AM.

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    That was hard!

    Think I'll go bunny even if he only has four bowlers, cos they're pretty decent all of them. A lot of overs from Kumble could be dangerous though. The 9-Test wonders seem to be going against the spirit of the draft somewhat. Might have picked Somerset's side if he had, say, Andy Caddick over Bruce Reid (please note: I'm not saying Caddick > Reid, I'm saying Caddick's 90s and 00s cricket > Reid's 90s cricket)
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    bunny in a close one.

    Bowling attack is the strength of this team. The rest is very solid, mix of flashy brilliant bats and solid determined types.

    Almost picked NUFAN and also liked GingerFurball's (lack of a frontline spinner only factor that stopped me from picking this team).

    For worst team, well no standout bad team. Special mention to Somerset's, no offence, but that team is largely a bunch of has been stars of the 80's. Impressive on paper though.

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    Going blakus. The bowling is superb, and the batting is archetypical 90's. Have to admit I had no idea Marshall played on into the 90's as well. Always thought he'd retired in the late 80's.


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    I still can't get over the fact that Gilchrist wasn't picked in the final round lol

    I need more time to think about who has the best team, real tough to decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NUFAN View Post
    I still can't get over the fact that Gilchrist wasn't picked in the final round lol

    I need more time to think about who has the best team, real tough to decide.
    I was actually thinking that I shouldnt pick McCullum in the 9th round, and was kind of sure that either Sanga or Gilly would land on to me. (You could see it based on the number of teams who already had wicket keepers). But, it was a risk and my team would probably have been barred if that didnt happen. And I am not too sad that I got G Smith although I'd have loved to get either Dravid or Sanga.

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    I think I probably end up screwed here on the votes because bunny's bowling is marginally better than mine, but my batting is marginally better than his. Unfortunately for me bowling is both our teams strengths so people who vote mostly on bowlers will probably end up voting for his team.

    Just a shame I got Steyn instead of McGrath or one of the 90s quicks. At least I didn't get stuck with an all rounder as my final option .

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    lol @ bunny and blakus voting for themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    lol @ bunny and blakus voting for themselves
    You should too, if you think yours is the best

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    Quote Originally Posted by bunny View Post
    You should too, if you think yours is the best
    Generally in these type of threads I would vote for someone else, because I know I'm biased towards the best team (mine)

    Honestly looking at the teams though I think that my batting is one of the strongest and my bowling is #2 behind your bowling. Still kicking myself at that horrible round 10/11 draw. The middle picks are so tough.
    Last edited by stephen; 14-12-2009 at 04:37 AM.

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    BoyBrumby with the undisputed best batting lineup. Pity about his 4th bowler. If he doesn't get any votes after a couple of days I might cast my vote his way.

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    Hmmm, which team has the fastest bowlers

    Have to go with Nufan's team tbh. The batting line-up looks really good and a lower order with Vaas at nine is always a good thing. Really liking the look of the bowling also.
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    btw, was going to list my team with full stats, might as well do it in this thread. All stats are only for the period 1990 onwards:

    Andrew Strauss (Eng) - 67 matches, 5266 runs @ 44.6, 18 100s (1 century per 3.7 matches)
    Michael Vaughan (c) (Eng) - 82m, 5719@41.44, 18 100s (1 per 4.5m)
    Kumar Sangakkara (SL) - (overall) 88m, 7549@55.10, 21 100s (1 per 4.2m). (As non keeper) 40m, 4432@73.86, 14 100s (1 per 2.8m)
    Younis Khan (Pak) - 63m, 5260@50.09, 16 100s (1 per 3.9m)
    Sourav Ganguly (Ind) - 113m, 7212@42.17, 16 100s (1 per 7m)
    Andy Flower (+) (Zim) - 63m, 4794@51.54, 12 100s (1 per 5.25m)
    Andrew Flintoff (Eng) - 79m, 3845@31.77, 5 100s (1 per 15.8m), 226 wickets @ 32.78 (2.8 wpm)
    Wasim Akram (Pak) - 75m, 2430@24.30, 3 100s, 320 wickets @ 22.28 (4.3 wpm)
    Heath Streak (Zim) - 65m, 1990@22.35, 1 100, 216 wickets @ 28.14 (3.3 wpm)
    Damien Fleming (Aus) - 20m, 305@19, 1 50, 75 wickets @ 25.89 (3.75 wpm)
    Stuart MacGill (Aus) - 44m, 208 wickets @ 29,02 (4.7 wpm)

    I knew MacGill's wickets per match figure was good, but I didn't realise it was that good.
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    Yeah Matt's team looks better with Khan and Ganguly switching places and Streak up to 9.

    Good work Howsie and KiWiNiNja - pretty hard for the Kiwis not to select a team with Flem as captain, Bond leading the attack

    I also tried to entice Richard to vote, selecting Vaas, Atherton and de Silva, wonder what he would think of my opening pair of Atherton and Sehwag,lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    btw, was going to list my team with full stats, might as well do it in this thread. All stats are only for the period 1990 onwards:

    I knew MacGill's wickets per match figure was good, but I didn't realise it was that good.
    I only wanted to list the stats of players who had significant careers outside the 90s and 00s. Otherwise it would have been information overload (so I cut stats from some players lists).

    I didn't realise how good McDermott's WPM was in the 90s either. MacGill probably the best bowler in the world never to have a permanant spot in his side.

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