Is Daniel Vettori the best 'all-rounder' at the moment?

Vikas Bhatt · 13-12-2009, 12:46 AM

Poor guy, is everything - Captain, batsman, bowler and what not for the team. His stats are impressive. He has now scored enough test runs and wickets to be called an all-rounder certainly and with the likes of Symonds, Flintoffs, Pathans in current cricket not playing for their teams for being crap or unfit, Vettori looks the only all-rounder on the block.

Jakester1288 · 13-12-2009, 12:48 AM

He is miles ahead of Symonds, Pathan etc. Bloody brilliant player, carries the New Zealand team. They will miss him so much when he retires.

Flem274* · 13-12-2009, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakester1288

He is miles ahead of Symonds, Pathan etc. Bloody brilliant player, carries the New Zealand team. They will miss him so much when he retires.

I would like to think that in four years at least Ryder,Taylor, and Southee will be world class, without going into any of the highly rated young players yet to play test cricket like Williamson, Raval and Boult.

If we end up missing him too much it will be a facepalm moment.

But yes, fantastic batsman and good fifth bowler. Kallis is still better by a long way though.

Howsie · 13-12-2009, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Flem274*

I would like to think that in four years at least Ryder,Taylor, and Southee will be world class, without going into any of the highly rated young players yet to play test cricket like Williamson, Raval and Boult.

If we end up missing him too much it will be a facepalm moment.

But yes, fantastic batsman and good fifth bowler. Kallis is still better by a long way though.

Well if New Zealand cricket ever wanted Southee to become world class they'd start playing him for more then one test at a time. How's he meant to improve when he's getting one game here and one game there, ridiculous imo.

Vettori's been a lot better then Kallis over the last two or so years however.

Prince EWS · 13-12-2009, 02:59 AM

Don't really think Vettori's anywhere near as good as Kallis tbh. In fact I don't even think he's a better bowler than Kallis.

BoyBrumby · 13-12-2009, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

Don't really think Vettori's anywhere near as good as Kallis tbh. In fact I don't even think he's a better bowler than Kallis.

Think that's fair. When he's properly fit Kallis's bowling is very decent. Suspect I've laboured the point elsewhere on CW, but he was SA's best bowler by a bit on their tour up here last year.

I can see why he's sometimes reluctant to bowl (big guy, thirties, world class batsman in his own right) but can also appreciate why Fat Gray turns to him. As it happens I far prefer to watch Kallis bowling than batting, but that's more a question of taste rather than quality.

Days of Grace · 13-12-2009, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Howsie

Well if New Zealand cricket ever wanted Southee to become world class they'd start playing him for more then one test at a time. How's he meant to improve when he's getting one game here and one game there, ridiculous imo.

Should select your best XI to win the match at any given time, IMO.

Uppercut · 13-12-2009, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Prince EWS

Don't really think Vettori's anywhere near as good as Kallis tbh. In fact I don't even think he's a better bowler than Kallis.

Yeah, was thinking the same thing.

Lillian Thomson · 13-12-2009, 04:16 AM

He might not even be a better spinner than Kallis.

Uppercut · 13-12-2009, 04:17 AM

Better looking though.

Flem274* · 13-12-2009, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson

He might not even be a better spinner than Kallis.

I am an ultra defensive precious kiwi and you sir, are a ****!!!!!!!!!!111111111111

Howsie · 13-12-2009, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Days of Grace

Should select your best XI to win the match at any given time, IMO.

Well IMO after this game he should be in our best XI.

KiWiNiNjA · 13-12-2009, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lillian Thomson

He might not even be a better spinner than Kallis.

But Vettori isn't a spinner........

Vikas Bhatt · 13-12-2009, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KiWiNiNjA

But Vettori isn't a spinner........

But isn't that what they said of Kumble too?

bagapath · 13-12-2009, 12:10 PM

vettori and kallis are the top all rounders in the world at the moment.

in the late 80s, abdul qadir and tauseef ahmad were the best spin bowlers in the world.

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Vikas Bhatt School Boy/Girl Cricketer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 87	Is Daniel Vettori the best 'all-rounder' at the moment? Poor guy, is everything - Captain, batsman, bowler and what not for the team. His stats are impressive. He has now scored enough test runs and wickets to be called an all-rounder certainly and with the likes of Symonds, Flintoffs, Pathans in current cricket not playing for their teams for being crap or unfit, Vettori looks the only all-rounder on the block. Last edited by Vikas Bhatt; 13-12-2009 at 08:32 PM.

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