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The CW50 - No.10

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I don't get how not having a partner could count against Hadlee. It would have been much easier to sit on Hadlee's bowling and score of the lesser guys.

I love Marshall anyways and have him at number 4, my highest ranked specialist bowler.
 

morgieb

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Suprised Paddles was in the top 10 (would've had him slightly out of it), but he was a damn good player none of the less.
 

The Sean

Cricketer Of The Year
I don't get how not having a partner could count against Hadlee. It would have been much easier to sit on Hadlee's bowling and score of the lesser guys.
Have always thought the same thing myself. Sure, he didn't have to share his wickets around as much, but at the same time he was relying on the likes of Chatfield and Snedden to maintain the pressure at the other end.
 

Zinzan

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I don't get how not having a partner could count against Hadlee. It would have been much easier to sit on Hadlee's bowling and score of the lesser guys.

I love Marshall anyways and have him at number 4, my highest ranked specialist bowler.
Yup, Marshall's my all-time favorite fast bowler.

Didn't vote on this, but Paddles' deserves to make the top 10 for mine
 

Noble One

International Vice-Captain
Big fan of Hadlee, I had him ranked very high on my list.

Was the thinking man's pace-bowler. I have some great VCR footage of Hadlee bowling three out-swingers to Dean Jones, each one swinging further than the last, and then on the fourth delivering a ball shaping to swing away, but hitting the seam and decking into Jones off-stump. Brilliant moment, you could never simply watch a highlights reel of all the wickets Hadlee took, it is more important to watch the deliveries leading up to every wicket.
 
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Somerset

Cricketer Of The Year
I was slightly biased and put Hadlee at number six on my submitted list - very pleased to see him make the top ten.
 

Hurricane

Hall of Fame Member
Big fan of Hadlee, I had him ranked very high on my list.

Was the thinking man's pace-bowler. I have some great VCR footage of Hadlee bowling three out-swingers to Dean Jones, each one swinging further than the last, and then on the fourth delivering a ball shaping to swing away, but hitting the seam and decking into Jones off-stump. Brilliant moment, you could never simply watch a highlights reel of all the wickets Hadlee took, it is more important to watch the deliveries leading up to every wicket.
Enjoyed this post. In his book Hadlee claimed he would use the entire over to work on a batsman and use his 6th delivery as the wicket taking ball.
 

G.I.Joe

International Coach
Thats a very interesting point. Is it possible to find out which delivery of the over gets a particular bowler the most wickets?
 

Matt79

Global Moderator
Had Hadlee quite high on my list - circa 10 but cbf checking exactly where. Throughly deserved his place. I think that it definitely helped guys like Marshall, as opposed to Hadlee, to have great bowling teammates. On the odd occasion Marshall had a bad day or encountered someone who withstood a spell of his, odds were that someone like Holding would get him instead. For Hadlee, if he seemed unlikely to get the bloke, odds are he'd be bowling him all day.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Yea, all of the 'lone warriors' have this going for them when rating: Dev, Murali, etc.

The pressure at the other end counts for so much in cricket. And the fact that as you say, you're pretty much it in your team, so if it doesn't work, welcome to figures of 30 overs for 120 runs and zero wickets at the end of the day. The captains don't have anyone else to turn to.
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
It's why I rate Lillee so highly. He did it when he had help and he did when he had very little. Did it as a tearaway, then did it as a plotter. Best ever.
 

Goughy

Hall of Fame Member
Thats a very interesting point. Is it possible to find out which delivery of the over gets a particular bowler the most wickets?
Agreed, that is a very interesting question. I would love to see the answer. My money on 1st and 4th being the most successful.
 

bagapath

International Captain
It's why I rate Lillee so highly. He did it when he had help and he did when he had very little. Did it as a tearaway, then did it as a plotter. Best ever.
hi there mate. hadlee, marshall and mcgrath have had more all round success than lillee. the best modern day fast bowler title should go to one of them. agree lillee is a contender, but not above those
 

Ikki

Hall of Fame Member
hi there mate. hadlee, marshall and mcgrath have had more all round success than lillee. the best modern day fast bowler title should go to one of them. agree lillee is a contender, but not above those
Respectfully disagree. There is nothing that they did that he couldn't do. Unfortunately, for him, he didn't play enough in the sub-continent for that to not be a question. But from all I have seen, read and know about him I don't consider one big enough to doubt his pedigree. And most people in Cricket agree with that.
 

HeathDavisSpeed

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
People convieniently overlook that Ewen Chatfield was a pretty useful bowler to have bowling in tandem with Paddles. Chatfield may not have the flashest of flash stats, but he was very difficult to get away; very rarely bowled 4 balls and was very adept at keeping up the pressure for Hadlee at the other end.

In fact, as I recall, when Hadlee was injured, Chatfield's stats were considerably improved as he finally had the chance to be the main strike bowler and not have Hadlee take the wickets at the other end.
 

chasingthedon

International Regular
Thats a very interesting point. Is it possible to find out which delivery of the over gets a particular bowler the most wickets?
That would require a database of all of the scorer's records, which I'm pretty sure either a) doesn't exist or b) is not available to the layman.
 

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