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    Player Workload

    One of things that annoys me is players, and here in Australia it has got ridiculous, complaining about their workload. That player workload has increased is a proposition that nobody seems to challenge. Over the coming week, I intend to set some time aside and dig back through the archives and compare how things were a decade or more ago compared to workload today. I think the comparison will surprise you, especially considering that modern day AUstralian players play little or no domestic cricket.

    It amazes me that someone like Ricky Ponting, who earns more than $1.5 million just from Cricket Australia, complains about how hard done by he is in terms of workload. I would just like to know one person who earns that amount in any other field of endevour who does not have to endure stresses and strains. Yes, there does need to be a cap put on the number of games each year, but if you average it out, I doubt over a four year cycle players would play 15 Tests and 30 ODIs over the course of the year. What's so arduous about that?

    Anyway, I will keep you apprised of my research findings.

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    It might just be my perception, but up here at least there seems to have been a good deal less whinging about workloads since the IPL came onto the scene.
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    True.

    Anyway, I intend to expose this player workload scam, if it's the last thing I do.

    How much cricket did AB play back in the early to mid-1990s?

    That's what I intend to uncover, right down to the day, and I will not rest until I do.

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    I think players from the subcontinent have handled much more workload for more than a decade (since ODIs became the staple) without much whingeing.


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    Some preliminary findings have come to hand…

    Allan Border played nine FC games during the Aussie Summer of 1992/1993 – at most Ponting will play six (all the Tests) or seven (maybe one Shield game) this Summer.

    More findings as they come to hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Alex View Post
    I think players from the subcontinent have handled much more workload for more than a decade (since ODIs became the staple) without much whingeing.
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    In a 20 year career, Border played a total of 767 matches. Ponting has played 659 coming into the start of his 18th year.
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    And yet since Ponting did get a week off to rest, he has been awesome.

    I'm sure they would have got some bigger gaps in the past, rather than such stretches of continuous cricket.

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    I agree with Howard. It annoys me to bits.

    However from my listening to commentators and journalists here in Australia, they are blaming the ICC for allowing the IPL to dominate, and then had a whinge about the Champions League and Ind/Aust 7 match series.

    All those injuries of course put fuel to the fire, but many of those injuries (not all of course) were sheer bad luck. You can't tell me Ferguson, Hopes or Brett Lee (who didn't play the Ashes) was down to workload.
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    The number of nights in hotels away from family and number of hours on a plane flying around the globe would have mushroomed however. FC matches in the UK, you're travelling what, 3 hours absolute tops to get to a venue and can duck home between matches. In Oz, again it's not nearly as big a hassle travelling interstate for half your FC matches as it is travelling to England or India for two months.

    That amount of travel really cuts into physical and mental recovery time.

    Plus back then, international matches generally meant something. You didn't go from one meaningless T20 tourney to an Ashes series to a overblown 7 match ODI series to another meaningless ICC tournament, this time ODI, then to another meaningless 7 match ODI series before returning to Australia to commence ANOTHER test series a week after coming back.

    Plus FC matches simply aren't as arduous for international players as internationals. It's a very rare occurence that performance in a FC match will affect an incumbent international's chances of selection, so it's a chance to get some less pressured match practice in, to help them work on issues with their game and frankly to relax and play it as a game away from public and much selectorial pressure. Missing that there's rarely a chance for a player in a slump like Hussey's for instance to go work it out and get some touch back.

    I think most players would be happy if they could trade some of the international fixtures for some
    domestic ones. And still feel like they had received a cut in the workload.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    The number of nights in hotels away from family and number of hours on a plane flying around the globe would have mushroomed however. FC matches in the UK, you're travelling what, 3 hours absolute tops to get to a venue and can duck home between matches. In Oz, again it's not nearly as big a hassle travelling interstate for half your FC matches as it is travelling to England or India for two months.
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    WTF? You do have motorised cars over there that can exceed 15mph don't you? Durham to Taunton is 450 kilometres. The drive from Melbourne to Canberra, door to door, not just on the highway, takes seven hours and is 750 kilometres.

    Call it 5 hours for frigging around in town, but really, the UK is the size of Victoria and you can't drive for eight hours anywhere that small.

    And that is presumably the most extreme example you can come up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    WTF? You do have motorised cars over there that can exceed 15mph don't you? Durham to Taunton is 450 kilometres. The drive from Melbourne to Canberra, door to door, not just on the highway, takes seven hours and is 750 kilometres.

    Call it 5 hours for frigging around in town, but really, the UK is the size of Victoria and you can't drive for eight hours anywhere that small.

    And that is presumably the most extreme example you can come up with.
    Google maps has Durham to Taunton as 5h15. Would have thought it would take longer than that if you hit any traffic. You need at least an hour just to get round Birmingham.

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    How did you guys ever have an Empire?

    EDIT: After a minute, that feels like it came out harsher than was meant. Consider a "jk" added to the bottom.

    My point remains though. You're still in YOUR country, you haven't had to fly anywhere, and you're away for four or five days and get a chance to get home again between matches. And I'd imagine a lot of the time, you're travelling much less distance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matt79 View Post
    Plus back then, international matches generally meant something. You didn't go from one meaningless T20 tourney to an Ashes series to a overblown 7 match ODI series to another meaningless ICC tournament, this time ODI, then to another meaningless 7 match ODI series before returning to Australia to commence ANOTHER test series a week after coming back.
    Come on Matt, its only meaningless in your eyes though.

    You can't tell me that those teams didn't want to badly win the T20 Cup. Look how upset SA were when they stuffed up again, despite having been in terrific form for 12 months beforehand.

    That T20 cup meant more than the 5 match ODI series between Aus and SA both home and away. That's for sure.

    And I'm not that big a T20 guy.

    I'll also argue that everytime there is a 'classic match' on Fox Sports showing a random Benson & Hedges ODI tri-series match from the 80s, those could be pretty damn meaningless too. And the players were on a lot less money then!
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