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Old 28-12-2009, 11:07 PM   #1516 (permalink)
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Chetan Chauhan says SL chickened out. He would have been ****ting all over the pitch if he was facing Malinga on that.
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He further says if it was Aussies or saffers they woudn't have called it off. In that case Indians will be the ones running for cover on that pitch. Then the snorters will be good 5-10k quicker.
That is surely contemptible stuff from Chauhan.
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Old 29-12-2009, 12:13 AM   #1517 (permalink)
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Makes one appreciate the past players' records when **** like this happens.
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Old 29-12-2009, 12:53 AM   #1518 (permalink)
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I would think even in standards of recent past (after 70s) this would have been a bad pitch. Thushara, Malinga and Prasad on full flow on this would have beem nightmares instead of medium pace trundlers both side had in this match (perhaps bar Tyagi). I don't even want to comment about what a great West Indian bowler would have done on this.
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Old 29-12-2009, 02:04 AM   #1519 (permalink)
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I would think even in standards of recent past (after 70s) this would have been a bad pitch. Thushara, Malinga and Prasad on full flow on this would have beem nightmares instead of medium pace trundlers both side had in this match (perhaps bar Tyagi). I don't even want to comment about what a great West Indian bowler would have done on this.
Thusara, Malinga and Prasad in full flow = lots of byes and wides on that pitch, I would think..


Yeah, they can bowl 140+.. Doesn't make them deadly.. 134+ with accuracy on that pitch is much more dangerous than stuff that flies over your head at 140+...


Let's not get carried away and label them in terms of dangerous in the same sentence as the Windies foursome..
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Old 29-12-2009, 02:08 AM   #1520 (permalink)
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For those who still aren't convinced of Dhoni's keeping skills.
Ball keeping low, ball bouncing, batsmen clueless.
Number of byes conceded = zero.
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Old 29-12-2009, 04:25 AM   #1521 (permalink)
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For those who still aren't convinced of Dhoni's keeping skills.
Ball keeping low, ball bouncing, batsmen clueless.
Number of byes conceded = zero.
That is because the ball came at him slow. put Steyn / Malinga / Roach on that and ask Dhoni to do the same.
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Old 29-12-2009, 04:27 AM   #1522 (permalink)
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Thusara, Malinga and Prasad in full flow = lots of byes and wides on that pitch, I would think..


Yeah, they can bowl 140+.. Doesn't make them deadly.. 134+ with accuracy on that pitch is much more dangerous than stuff that flies over your head at 140+...


Let's not get carried away and label them in terms of dangerous in the same sentence as the Windies foursome..
Thuhsara is a quite accurate. Malinga and Prasad are some times. But with that uncertain bounce anything approaching batsmen at 90mph is much deadly than anything coming in mid to low 80s.
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Old 29-12-2009, 04:37 AM   #1523 (permalink)
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That is because the ball came at him slow. put Steyn / Malinga / Roach on that and ask Dhoni to do the same.
If the ball came at him slow, why call off the match ?
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For those who still aren't convinced of Dhoni's keeping skills.
Ball keeping low, ball bouncing, batsmen clueless.
Number of byes conceded = zero.
Dhoni's issues aren't with conceding too many byes or keeping to fast (or fast-medium) bowlers, they're with taking nicks when standing up to the stumps.
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Old 29-12-2009, 06:23 AM   #1525 (permalink)
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If the ball came at him slow, why call off the match ?
Relatively slower than what batsman receives, and relatively slower than when a true fast man bowled. And the speed has a vertical tangent as well as a horizontal one. Problem was with the vertical one
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That is because the ball came at him slow. put Steyn / Malinga / Roach on that and ask Dhoni to do the same.
Just accept that Dhoni's keeping against fast bowlers is top notch - your denial makes you appear foolish, heaven forbid.
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Dhoni's issues aren't with conceding too many byes or keeping to fast (or fast-medium) bowlers, they're with taking nicks when standing up to the stumps.
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Old 29-12-2009, 11:11 AM   #1528 (permalink)
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Dhoni's issues aren't with conceding too many byes or keeping to fast (or fast-medium) bowlers, they're with taking nicks when standing up to the stumps.
A fact common for almost all wicketkeepers these days. Dhoni's seems protracted because he has to face such bowlers more often in the subcontinent. Prasanna Jayawardene, considered to be the best wicketkeeper going around dropped more chances than Dhoni in the last series.
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Relatively slower than what batsman receives, and relatively slower than when a true fast man bowled. And the speed has a vertical tangent as well as a horizontal one. Problem was with the vertical one
Surely if the vertical vector was what was testing the batsmen, extrapolating that vector beyond the batsman would imply that the keeper faced an even sterner test.
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A fact common for almost all wicketkeepers these days. Dhoni's seems protracted because he has to face such bowlers more often in the subcontinent. Prasanna Jayawardene, considered to be the best wicketkeeper going around dropped more chances than Dhoni in the last series.
Actually Prasanna's keeping wasn't all that great throughout. I hadn't seen much of him before this series and expected him to be a wall behind the stumps after hearing all the praise from each and every corner.

Was bitterly disappointed. I have come to think that him being called the world's best keeper is more a case of everybody repeating the same thing whether it is true or not.
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