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Matt79

Global Moderator
Bollinger ahead of Clark at this stage IMO. Stuey needs to show he can top 125kph consistenty before he can be considered for a test spot again.
 

Andre

International Regular
Ha. Still amazes me to this day how they even contemplated picking Test sides before the speed gun... 8-)
 

Matt79

Global Moderator
Nah, I'm generally not too fussed about speeds. "above 125kph" was my tongue in cheek short hand to say that he's IMO visibly lost a yard of pace and that this has significantly impacted the level of threat he poses to test batsmen in normal conditions. He's never been a bowler that relied predominantly on pace, but I think the things he does rely on are too easily negotiated if he's bowling genuine medium pace. If that drop in speed was due to injury and reverses itself as he gets match fitness, then game on.
 

howardj

International Coach
Bollinger ahead of Clark at this stage IMO. Stuey needs to show he can top 125kph consistenty before he can be considered for a test spot again.
FFS the Foxtel speed gun is faulty.

According to it, Lee barely registered 135km yesterday.

Their speed gun has been murdering guys all Summer.

It's going to end careers this thing.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
FFS the Foxtel speed gun is faulty.

According to it, Lee barely registered 135km yesterday.

Their speed gun has been murdering guys all Summer.

It's going to end careers this thing.
Well to be fair Clark in the Champions trophy in all the games was bowling between 118-125 - thats reliable speed gun if you have doubts about foxtel.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
So disappointed for Lee, his test career could indeed be over - may be stuck in the ODI setup now. Hopefully Bollinger replaces & maintains a place.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Pretty sure Siddle will be fit anyway, so not a real big issue, but I reckon they've made it pretty clear that he is the next 'bolter' so to speak. Can't see them going outside the 3 incumbents, Clark and Bollinger though to be honest... Who'd be next cab off the rank though? Geeves maybe?

Yeah I don't like Watson opening either but I reckon Punter will be able to get Hussey in for 1 more Test... First trip and he's gone though, I reckon. Selectors made a clanger when they kept picking him in the Test XI, and his hundred effectively came when the match was gone rather than in 1st innings when runs were crucial.

Seemingly though, yourself/myself/Howardj are the few who I've noticed suggest that Hussey is gone so am expecting a grilling!
Geeves shouldn't be near test consideration, he is barely ODI quality. Would have to say Nannes. I personally think he is better than Bollinger, but the selectors unfortunately see him as T20 specialist. Noffke can't bee too far off the radar either i reckon, with Clark seemingly finished - he is best metronome type bowler in domestic cricket.
 

Andre

International Regular
Geeves shouldn't be near test consideration, he is barely ODI quality. Would have to say Nannes. I personally think he is better than Bollinger, but the selectors unfortunately see him as T20 specialist. Noffke can't bee too far off the radar either i reckon, with Clark seemingly finished - he is best metronome type bowler in domestic cricket.
Nannes is injured, out for at least a month.

Not too worried about Geeves as ODI standard as he is a much better longer form bowler, his form in that department has been ok this year and he was with the Test squad is South Africa.

Noffke will never play for Australia again - he went to the same school of bridge burning that Brad Hodge did.
 

Xuhaib

International Coach
Nah, I'm generally not too fussed about speeds. "above 125kph" was my tongue in cheek short hand to say that he's IMO visibly lost a yard of pace and that this has significantly impacted the level of threat he poses to test batsmen in normal conditions. He's never been a bowler that relied predominantly on pace, but I think the things he does rely on are too easily negotiated if he's bowling genuine medium pace. If that drop in speed was due to injury and reverses itself as he gets match fitness, then game on.
Yeah when had his elbow injusy his pace went down by 10k's from mid 130's to mid 120's and this seriously hampered his effectivness, yes the extra yard of pace is important for trundlers aswell.
 

NUFAN

Y no Afghanistan flag
Anyone else think that Langer's appointment as batting coach is a sign that Phil Hughes will be opening the batting for Australia at the GABBA?
 

Noble One

International Vice-Captain
Good mix of bowling talent in Australia right now. Clearly no superstar amongst the ranks, but bowlers who have the potential to be good players at international level.

Bollinger a clear next in line. But a great range of bowlers who are performing well right behind him, Geeves, Nannes, McKay, Cutting, Noffke. Maybe even young McDermott might take a big haul on debut against the West Indies on Wednesday and begin the first steps towards a major career.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Walter and Cutting might be a couple of years away from a berth. And ****ley might be a bolter as well.
 

four_or_six

Cricketer Of The Year
Anyone else think that Langer's appointment as batting coach is a sign that Phil Hughes will be opening the batting for Australia at the GABBA?
Can't imagine Langer as a batting coach to these current international players, he seems somewhat too intense. I would have thought he'd be better employed at an academy or state level.

As for Hughes being back in, he may well be in the squad if they name a spare batsman. I have to say, I found the total outrage from Langer and Hayden that a 'not proper' opener was opening in the ashes one of the funniest moments of the series! I was hoping for McGrath to pop into the commentary with them and wind them up about one of his bowling prodigys opening.
 

aussie

Hall of Fame Member
Nannes is injured, out for at least a month.
Damn. Well when fit again, he should be next in line. Aus shouldn't worry with his age, they picked Colin Miller @ 37 & he gave us 3 very good years whenever he played.

Not too worried about Geeves as ODI standard as he is a much better longer form bowler, his form in that department has been ok this year and he was with the Test squad is South Africa.
Yea but unfortunately that didn't make it a wise decision - Nannes should have toured SA for & probably played in those tests tbf. Even if Geeves apparantley has a better FC record, based on what i've seen of him in ODIs i struggle to see what use he could have in tests.

Noffke will never play for Australia again - he went to the same school of bridge burning that Brad Hodge did.
Ha ye unfortunately. But as i said now that Clark is done & Lee test career on the crossroads. Noffke is the best line bowler to compliment Hilfy/Sidds/Jonno.
 

howardj

International Coach
Anyone else think that Langer's appointment as batting coach is a sign that Phil Hughes will be opening the batting for Australia at the GABBA?
No, but if he appears at the Gabba it will in place of North, not Hussey.

Strange appointment, the Langer one.

Would make accredited coaches wonder whether it's all worth it.
 
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