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    What is your state/provinces all time greatest team?

    What is the best team you can assemble from your state/province.

    I'll start with mine - QLD:

    Wessels
    Hayden
    Bill Brown
    Chappel G
    Border (c)
    Symonds
    Healy (wk)*
    Lindwall
    McDermott
    Thompson
    Kasprowicz**

    *QLD certainly has the strongest keeping reserves in Don Tallon and Wally Grout, and both could make exceptional cases for selection, but Healy was probably a slightly better bat and is an all time great keeper in his own right

    **QLD has Symonds for some spin if necessary, but on a turner Kasper should make way for Hohns.

    The only real weaknesses in this lineup are QLDs 4th bowler and a weak tail.

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    Wellington

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    A Jones
    S Fleming *
    M Crowe
    J Coney
    B Taylor
    J Reid
    K James(+)
    G Larsen
    J Cowie
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    Gavin Larsen? Surely there's someone better, O'Brien perhaps. (This coming from someone who knows very little about Larsen except for the fact he was medium pace and looking at his stats though).
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    What is the best team you can assemble from your state/province.

    I'll start with mine - QLD:

    Wessels
    Hayden
    Bill Brown
    Chappel G
    Border (c)
    Symonds
    Healy (wk)*
    Lindwall
    McDermott
    Thompson
    Kasprowicz**

    *QLD certainly has the strongest keeping reserves in Don Tallon and Wally Grout, and both could make exceptional cases for selection, but Healy was probably a slightly better bat and is an all time great keeper in his own right

    **QLD has Symonds for some spin if necessary, but on a turner Kasper should make way for Hohns.

    The only real weaknesses in this lineup are QLDs 4th bowler and a weak tail.
    Disagree with your QSL side slightly. I wont consider Wessels since i'd want to keep to Australian players & the fact that he would be in contention for the South African All-time XI. While from research i think Lindwall would surely be in contention for NSW since he spent most of his career their intially.

    So i'd go:

    Bill Brown
    Matthew Hayden
    Stuart Law
    Greg Chappell
    Allan Border (c)
    Colin McCool
    Ron Archer/Ken McKay
    Ian Healy
    Kasper
    McDermott
    Thommo

    Sam Trimble the unluckies to miss out..


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    LANCASHIRE: (All English)

    Archie McLaren (c)
    Michael Atherton
    Cyril Washbrook
    Ernest Tyldesley
    Eddie Paynter
    Andrew Flintoff
    Jack Sharp
    Johnny Briggs
    George Duckworth+
    Brian Statham
    Syd Barnes

    12th Man: Roy Tattersall/Ken Higgs
    Last edited by aussie; 25-10-2009 at 01:20 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    Gavin Larsen? Surely there's someone better, O'Brien perhaps. (This coming from someone who knows very little about Larsen except for the fact he was medium pace and looking at his stats though).
    Collinge would be the one to go but Larsen was one of the most miserly players in history and is pretty much my psudeo-spinner for the team. Great variations and impossible to hit, Larsen was a gun and playing at the Basin I doubt any other Kiwi club team could beat us.

    The full 15 man squad would include:

    the XI

    Collinge
    Chatfield
    Twose
    A Spinner and gun fielder..... why not Jeets
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    Off the top of my head for Victoria, what about:

    Lawry
    Woodfull (c)
    Ponsford
    Jones
    Harvey
    Miller
    Reiffel
    Warne
    Hughes
    Blackham (wk)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Camo999 View Post
    Off the top of my head for Victoria, what about:

    Lawry
    Woodfull (c)
    Ponsford
    Jones
    Harvey
    Miller
    Reiffel
    Warne
    Hughes
    Blackham (wk)
    Ironmonger
    Bill Lawry
    Bill Ponsford
    Lindsay Hassett
    Neil Harvey
    Jack Ryder (c)
    Keith Miller
    Warwick Armstrong
    Shane Warne
    Jack Blackham +
    Merv Hughers
    Max Walker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Wellington

    CS Dempster
    R Redmond
    A Jones
    S Fleming *
    M Crowe
    J Coney
    B Taylor
    J Reid
    K James(+)
    G Larsen
    J Cowie
    Ack just realised I left Donnelly out, Jones or Fleming.......... Jones gets the boot.

    Dempster
    Redmond
    Fleming
    Crowe
    Donelly
    Coney
    Reid *
    Taylor
    James (+)
    Larsen
    Cowie

    Feels criminal to have Reid so low but this side has some immensely long batting.

    Jones
    Collinge
    Chatfield
    Twose

    Waiting in the wings as well. Pretty much an all-time NZ team besides the omissions of Turner, Hadlee and Bond.

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    Northern Districts

    1 John Wright
    2 Bert Sutcliffe
    3 Geoff Howarth
    4 Scott Styris
    5 Mark Bailey
    6 Chris Cairns
    7 Daniel Vettori
    8 Bryan Young
    9 Lance Cairns
    10 Cliff Dickeson
    11 Darryl Tuffey

    1) Notable exclusion: Jon Parker. I don't like him attended a coaching clinic with him once

    2) 12th man Tom Puna played on my cricket team after he retired.

    3) Chris Cairns will open the bowling.

    4) Mark Bailey was my high school captain and ND stalwart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    Ack just realised I left Donnelly out, Jones or Fleming.......... Jones gets the boot.

    Dempster
    Redmond
    Fleming
    Crowe
    Donelly
    Coney
    Reid *
    Taylor
    James (+)
    Larsen
    Cowie
    Crowe played for a number of teams. I will look up his record to see who he played with the most.

    Auckland (Main FC: 1979/80-1982/83); Central Districts (Main FC: 1983/84-1989/90); Somerset (Main FC: 1984-1988); Wellington (Main FC: 1990/91-1994/95);

    I think Central Districts has the best claim to him. And this is the association I think of the most when I think of him.

    Fleming also played a little bit more for Canterbury.

    Perhaps we can make a rule that some players can appear in the all time XIs for multiple provinces.
    Last edited by Hurricane; 24-10-2009 at 11:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    Disagree with your QSL side slightly. I wont consider Wessels since i'd want to keep to Australian players & the fact that he would be in contention for the South African All-time XI. While from research i think Lindwall would surely be in contention for NSW since he spent most of his career their intially.

    So i'd go:

    Bill Brown
    Matthew Hayden
    Stuart Law
    Greg Chappell
    Allan Border (c)
    Colin McCool
    Ron Archer/Ken McKay
    Ian Healy
    Kasper
    McDermott
    Thommo

    Sam Trimble the unluckies to miss out..
    Never heard of Colin McCool before but he certainly looks very accomplished and would make a fine spin choice ahead of Hohns and Symonds. I would play Love ahead of Law if Wessels wasn't selected (though Wessels played for QLD for 7 years, which is hardly insignificant). Also Ron Archer would be a reasonable replacement for Lindwall (I wasn't sure how long Lindwall played for either state).

    I still think that Bichel would be a very fine 12th man for this QLD side

    NSW XI:

    Trumper
    Simpson
    Bradman
    Morris
    Waugh S
    Waugh M
    Haddin
    Lindwall
    Davidson
    O'Reilly
    McGrath

    World class side that. Close to Australia's best possible all time bowling attack too.

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    A quick story - Cliff Dickeson turned up at my high school practice one day to share some insights. I bowled a delivery and after about a second well before it bounced and well before it had reached the top of its arc and had begun its descent he said 'great ball' - and then it bounced and clean bowled the guy.
    How did he know it was going to be a good ball.

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    Tassie:

    Boonie
    Di Venuto
    Ponting (c)
    Badcock
    Cox
    Woolley (wk)
    Young
    Hills
    Simmons
    Eady
    Hilfenhaus

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen View Post
    I would play Love ahead of Law if Wessels wasn't selected (though Wessels played for QLD for 7 years, which is hardly insignificant).

    Law was a fairly superior to Love based on what i saw of them TBF. I saw alot of Law given he played for Lancashire and all.

    If Wessels didn't go back & play for the saffies i'd consider him. But i consider him a foreigner just like how Sobers would be in a South Australian side.



    NSW XI:

    Trumper
    Simpson
    Bradman
    Morris
    Waugh S
    Waugh M
    Haddin
    Lindwall
    Davidson
    O'Reilly
    McGrath

    World class side that. Close to Australia's best possible all time bowling attack too.
    Indeed.

    Although i guess Bill Murdoch could be considered as keeper over Haddin ATM, but i guess Haddin by the end of his career, will be a dead lock in a NSW side.

    Also maybe you could pick Charles McCartney instead of of one of Morris or M Waugh. Top batsman, while giving a solid option as a left-arm spinner.

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