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  • Daniel Vettori

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  • Ajantha Mendis

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  • Harbhajan Singh

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  • Saeed Ajmal

    4 16.00%
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    Wow, that's dire.

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    What spinner does well against Aus in ODI's though?
    Vettori averages 40
    Murali averages 31.6
    Kumble 52.6

    Afridi has a good average, 27.51

    Otherwise it's all about the economy I'd say.
    Afridi 4.26
    Vettori: 4.15
    Murali: 4.50
    Kumble: 5.42
    Harby: 4.56
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    Ajmal vs Aus - Avg 31.7, ER 3.4

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    Quote Originally Posted by andyc View Post
    Haha, wow. I actually had no idea that his record against Australia in ODIs is so poor; an average of almost 50 from 28 games, which is even worse inside India. I guess it's just easy to assume that since he goes well against them in Tests that it'd be replicated in ODIs.
    Economy of 4.65 against Australia is still pretty solid though. Tbh, through some intropolation, it is evident thar he gets through 9-0-43-1 on average, which is not terrible.
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    Yeah, Shakib or Vettori.

    Chawla could be an outsider as well.

    And the Bangladeshis had some handy-looking spinners when their U19s came over here last summer. It's difficult to work out at that age though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clapo View Post
    His record to date agaist international batsmen is good enough. Obviously it's only a small number of matches, but given the way he's bowled since his return to the ODI team, I'm confident he'll maintain a bowling average around 25-27.
    I'm also confident he won't. His record since his return earlier this year is decent enough (it certainly wasn't before then), yes, but precious few have ever achieved long-term success bowling in the manner he has bowled in that time, so I don't think it's too much to ask that Hauritz won't break that mould.
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    Quote Originally Posted by honestbharani View Post
    That's a bit of a myth though.. His ODI record against Australia sucks, period.
    Quote Originally Posted by andyc View Post
    Haha, wow. I actually had no idea that his record against Australia in ODIs is so poor; an average of almost 50 from 28 games, which is even worse inside India. I guess it's just easy to assume that since he goes well against them in Tests that it'd be replicated in ODIs.
    I'm not sure I agree with this at all. Sure, the overall figures (economy-rate 4.65, average 48.54) aren't good, but in reality on a game-by-game basis it's not really too bad. He's played 28 games against Australia (didn't bowl once), of which I'd say only 9 could be classed as genuine shockers (ie he's conceded 5.2-an-over or more). 19 decent-to-good games out of 27 is more than acceptable in my book.

    As is usually the case, the overall figures aren't very reliable over a large sample size.
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    If 'twere possible I'd vote for Pushy - not even 21 yet!

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    Could a mod sort out the title please? Whose?!?

    As to the question at hand, I really don't know. Mendis seems to have been worked out somewhat after he initially burst onto the scene (for all his variations he's not actually a huge turner of the ball in either direction) & Shakib's figures are maybe a tad flattering due to the quality of the oppo he usually faces. In fact, if one limits him to "proper" ODI teams he averages 43.42 with a ER of 4.72.

    van der Merwe, anyone? One of those bowlers who looks a bit innocuous, but seems to bowl his overs quickly for not all that many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Athlai View Post
    What spinner does well against Aus in ODI's though?
    Vettori averages 40
    Murali averages 31.6
    Kumble 52.6

    Afridi has a good average, 27.51

    Otherwise it's all about the economy I'd say.
    Afridi 4.26
    Vettori: 4.15
    Murali: 4.50
    Kumble: 5.42
    Harby: 4.56
    Swann averages 22.44 against them with an econ of 4.48


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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    van der Merwe, anyone? One of those bowlers who looks a bit innocuous, but seems to bowl his overs quickly for not all that many.
    Excellent choice. He is some one who will be in the picture for the best spinner, if not the best spinner for a while.

    Also, agree regarding Mendis not being a huge turner of the ball.

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