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    Steve Tikolo in Tests?

    Its a shame a batsmen like Tikolo never got to play international test cricket, his record in first class test cricket is amazing

    What kind of batsmen would you think he would have been if he played international test cricket? like what would be his average? i am assuming some where between 35-40, which is pretty good.

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    Simply no way of knowing. I'm not entirely sure precisely where Tikolo's First-Class cricket came, but I do know not very much of it came during the prime of his career.

    It is a shame he never played for a South African province mind. Then we might well have a clearer idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Simply no way of knowing. I'm not entirely sure precisely where Tikolo's First-Class cricket came
    Probably against other associates in non OD matches.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    It is a shame he never played for a South African province mind. Then we might well have a clearer idea.
    He did, for Border, early in his career, and he failed. Didn't play enough games to call it a decent sample size though, mind.
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    What I mean is it's a shame he never had a substantial career in provincial cricket.

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    Never got a gig as an overseas player in the CC, which doesn't suggest he was overly rated in the longer form.
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    Yeah funny that, was looking at his stats and 4000 FC runs for someone of his age and experience is nothing, really. Shame that he never got the chance to prove himself on the big stage though. All credit for sticking with Kenya and not defecting to Zimbabwe or South Africa though.
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    Didn't his peak years coincide with the counties only being able to register one overseas player a season?

    I'm sure he'd have had a few stints had the rules then been as they are now

    ............. saying that as he did get a gig 'appen the counties thought Collins Obuya was Kenya's leading player?

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    Well, Warwickshire did - though even then IIRR he was only signed as a stopgap. I can't remember the exact dates when one overseas-player per county was the limit, but it was certainly two between 2003 and 2007.

    Either way there are several excellent players who have never played county cricket as an overseas-player - Jamie Siddons for example - doesn't really mean a lot.
    Last edited by Richard; 07-10-2009 at 03:51 PM.

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    Jamie Siddons? He was nothing special was he?

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    Far too much of a patriot and leader to defect to Zim or SA.

    Remember also that Kenya were in the wilderness for some of his best years 2003-7. His pro career was Border, Bangladesh and Zim though he did play some club cricket in UK for a brief stint.

    Real shame he never got the opportunity to play tests.

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    Good enough to average 40-45 in test cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fredfertang View Post
    Jamie Siddons? He was nothing special was he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Migara View Post
    Good enough to average 40-45 in test cricket.
    Based on what exactly? He's hardly got a stellar record against the better sides in ODIs and if he were really that good, then he'd have been selected by a first class team surely?
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    Based on what exactly?
    Gut feeling

    He's hardly got a stellar record against the better sides in ODIs and if he were really that good, then he'd have been selected by a first class team surely?
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