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Happy with your current national side? (ODIs)

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We're looking at Porterfield and O'Brien opening the batting. Arguably the best opening partnership in Associate cricket history. Paul Stirling at 3 promises a hell of a lot too.

The number 4 spot was originally Eoin Morgan's, so it's become a bit of a problem area. Andre Botha played there recently for us but he'll be 35 by the time the World Cup comes around. Alex Cusack has given it a go too, but he's a bits-and-pieces man, certainly not the quality you want at 4. As much as Morgan didn't perform especially well for us, particularly in big games, his absence does leave a pretty sizeable hole.

Can't complain about the number five spot, Kevin O'Brien can do that job for sure. Hopefully he'll go from strength to strength now he's playing for Notts, but when I saw him play recently the only thing he'd picked up there was Samit Patel's figure. There must be a bloody good Indian place near Trent Bridge. But he's a quality player, and he'll come good. Once he finds form he's a key player for us.

John Mooney and Gary Wilson are the candidates for batting at 6, and neither are very convincing. They don't really have the aggression to bat there, while Wilson wasn't any better when he opened the batting. It's strange, because a couple of years ago it seemed we'd got a player that would be a quality player for years, but he's not progressed as we'd have hoped. The middle/lower order remains a concern.

Big Trent seems like he's going to go on forever, and the tail looks strong with players like McCallan, West, White and Cusack all at least handy with the bat. Apart from Trent, they do all need to work on their slogging a bit though.

The bowling's grown into a pretty strong unit. If Trent can carry on at the standard he's been bowling, he and Rankin will be as good an opening bowling partnership as you could hope for. Regan West's been bloody awesome recently too, I'm only hoping he's not peaking between tournaments.

The other strength of the bowling is that there's a lot of options (the flip-side to having the middle order filled with bits-and-pieces men). Any one of White, Cusack (specialist death-bowler), McCallan, Kev O'Brien and Botha can turn in a useful spell with the ball, so you'd hope there'd be a few good contributions in between (although another 5/2 off 8 overs from Botha might be too much to ask). The concern is that there isn't really an up-and-coming man, and the depth isn't there if someone like Rankin reverts to type and breaks down.

So all in all I'm pretty happy with the side at the moment. Certainly the best team we've ever had, much better than the successful team in 2007. But we seriously struggle on subcontinental tracks so the fact that it's in India will probably prevent a repeat. Also, and I hate to pursue the point too heavily because it's really starting to cast a shadow over Irish cricket as a whole, but the one disappointment is that there's a huge Morgan+Joyce-shaped hole in our middle order.
 

Beamer

International Vice-Captain
Whats Samuels position now?. Plus got any links showing that is definate the Dwayne Smith is back?.

Loving the fast-bowling talent, looking forward to seeing them in AUS later this year.
Samuels is not back for a few months I think. His comeback will probably be in our 4 day competition in January/February. We will see how he goes and if he can get into the Jamaica team as they have some talented young batsmen.

As for Dwayne Smith, I saw an interview with him on Sussex tv. Because he has not played for the West Indies for 3 years he cannot get a work permit anymore. Sussex only want him as their overseas player for 20/20's so Dwayne is concentrating on getting into the West Indies side again. IMHO he should walk into the ODI and 20/20 squads but is nowhere near worthy of a test place.
 

turnstyle

State 12th Man
... Also, and I hate to pursue the point too heavily because it's really starting to cast a shadow over Irish cricket as a whole, but the one disappointment is that there's a huge Morgan+Joyce-shaped hole in our middle order.
It'd be very surprising if Ed plays for the full English team before he requalifies again for us, so he should join the squad before the World Cup which could sort out that no. 3 spot (i know he spent most of his time at 4 though)

With the under 19's being so successful recently, there must be a decent seamer coming through. Another seamer as quick as Boyd would just sure up that line up. Fingers crossed giving the finger to that new 40 over league means there will be more tours on the subcontient like the Sri Lanka one coming up too
 
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I suspect Joyce would go back to 4 with Paul Stirling looking good at 3, but unless I'm mistaken, it'll April 4th 2011 (four years after his last England game) before he can play for us- a month after the World Cup ends.

That's if he even fancies it.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
Off the top of my head

Strauss*
Davies+
Pietersen
Trott
Flintoff
Collingwood
Morgan
Broad
Swann
???
Anderson

On a spinning deck we can stick Rashid in the ??? space, but the fourth seamer is a problem area. Onions is worth a go on seaming decks because he'll probably get wickets even though he'll go for a few, but if we're looking at a WC in India then we need an economical seamer. Not sure Sidebottom will be up to it, don't think Bresnan is the answer. Bit stuck on this one to be honest.

I like Luke Wright and he definitely gets a place in my squad, and Shah's probably still better than the rest of the options with the bat if we need backup there, and I wouldn't completely rule out Bopara getting his act together by 2011. But I dunno. We've got a decent foundation - with Pietersen & Flintoff in the side we could be a fairly good side, but how often have we had them both in the ODI side together?

We were awesome against Saffa when we did last summer, and we beat the Windies with them both in the team, still got swallowed up in India though. I think we'll struggle over there tbh.
 

NUFAN

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Prince is on the money regarding Voges, he's certainly a talent and WAY ahead of Travis Birt - who pup mentioned.

1 Watson Haddin Ponting MHussey Clarke Ferguson White Johnson Lee Hauritz Bracken
2 Marsh Paine Hodge DHussey Voges North Hopes Mckay Siddle Tait Hilfenhaus

Fringe players: Geeves, Jaques, Warner, Bollinger, GBailey, Nannes, Henriques, and a random spinner.

That's my 30 man squad.
 

Jarquis

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Well with Flintoff, Broad, Swann, Anderson and another bowler, I'd take an extra batsman (maybe but nt necessarily one who can chip in a few overs) - when there's a perfectly serviceable bowler like Collingwood in the batsmen already, we don't need more options whereas that batting line-up is week.

Hence I'd put Morgan in.
Yeah, Morgan is a fair enough shout to fill that spot in the middle order but like I said I'd rather have a flexible batting order with Morgan and Flintoff switching depending on situation.
There really isn't a need for a bowling option at 7 when you have 2 in your top 6 in Flintoff and Collingwood and then Pietersen should a few other bowlers go the distance.
Then you consider the fact that if the selectors ran with our line up Trott is a more than useful option so yeah, no need for an allrounder at 7.
 

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We were awesome against Saffa when we did last summer, and we beat the Windies with them both in the team, still got swallowed up in India though. I think we'll struggle over there tbh.
Can definitely see England struggling in India. They never seem to quite grasp that 300 is a par score. Remember the last game, where everything went to plan for England? KP got a century, 111 off 128 balls, and they finished on 270/4. Sehwag and Tendulkar opened the batting for India... it wasn't even close, in the end. They really lack a bit of firepower on the slower decks.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
I don't remember the series that well tbh, bit of a hazy time, but we were poor, I remember that much
 

aussie

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Why is that, Hodgey is still the most prolific OD batsman in Australia?
His age & the fact the younger batting options are solid enough. The upcomign T20 WC if the selectors weren't treating him so dumb would be the last limited overs tourney i would consider Hodge for.

Well, Tait is a match winner with the ball, but he's nothing short of a liability in the field or with the bat, on top of that, like we saw in the recent Aussie ODI season, he just can't string together consecutive games, and all this trouble would have been worth it, if he could have atleast managed to stay fit for a considerable period of time.
A new season is coming up, lets see how his body holds up. Once he stays fit he should be in the T20 setup & very close the ODI setup.


Geeves is a bloke who bowls at decent pace and swings the new white ball, and he is also a handy lower order bat, so he is a good prospect in that regard.
Yea but he is too far down the pecking order to be a serious option. If we thinking about 2011 WC, he would smoked on those wickets, Since if his strenght is swinging the new white bal, he would never get that chance to use it for AUS anyway.

as for Hilfy, unlike what you are saying, Hilfy does have the toys like a good bouncer, slower ball, yorker, but he has failed to use them properly, and on top of that his length has generally been poor, so its the execution of his skills that he needs to work on.
He has a good yorker yea but thats it. He strenght is bowling full and swinging it, which in ODIs although he could get early wickets - also makes him very hittable.
 

Pothas

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Morgan would bat at 5 or 6 in that case.

Mascarenhas has this so called big hitting, finishing, aura - but how often has he actually done it? I'd personally rate Broad as a better bat and Swann for that matter anyway.

Add in his bowling being completely innocuous and you have a modern day bits and pieces player.
In county cricket Mascarenhas has been a lot more than simply a bits and pieces player, he is a proper bowler who despite his pace can be extremely effective both as an openning bowler and as a first or second change bowler. Essentially for Hampshire he has been a bowling allrounder who can bat a bit and occassionaly can produce a really destructive and big innings (actually his batting has got a lot more consistent in recent years.

In international cricket however you are essentially correct, his bowling which is a genuine wicket taking threat in county cricket is not good enough to pose a big enough threat in international cricket. My only regret is that he was not picked a bit earlier for England when he was a better bowler, this may have nmade no real difference but I fancy he would have done a little better. As for his batting I think the 5 sixes in one over has done him no favour in that it has gained him a repuation that he has struggled to live up to, and an unfair one conisdering his is primarily still a bowler. My main concern for him now is that he had by far his worst season ever for hampshire last season and I hope he does not become in country cricket what he is in internatonal cricket.
 
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