Most Unluckiest Players

V Reddy · 23-07-2003, 08:52 AM

Mine would be

A Stuart (AUS)- he took a hat-trick against Pak and after that never heard his name again.

Gary Stead ( NZ ) - Scored a good fighting half century against India when NZ last toured India but never heard of him again after that series.

David Johnson ( Ind ) - Was the highest wicket taker against provinial teams when India toured SAF in 1997 , got to play in one test , took 2-47 and was dropped from even his state side Karnataka within 6 months.

Vikram Rathore ( India ) - Scored tons and tons of runs when he was with the Indian team in 1996-97 against County teams in Eng and Provinces in SAF but failed miserably in Test matches.

I remember Gavascar saying about a player ( can't remeber his name ) who made debut for India in the same series in which he did - that he was a very very talented player and one of the best he has seen . He was brilliantly caught by Sobers when he was playing well in his only innings and after that he never played for India again. While in the same series , Sobers dropped 2 very easy catches in his 1st test innings and after that he never looked back. He was saying how luck plays an important part in one's career.

Anil · 23-07-2003, 09:24 AM

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Originally posted by vishnureddy
Vikram Rathore ( India ) - Scored tons and tons of runs when he was with the Indian team in 1996-97 against County teams in Eng and Provinces in SAF but failed miserably in Test matches.

How can Rathore be considered unlucky if he was given a chance and failed miserably showing that he was clearly out of his depth in the international arena?

luckyeddie · 23-07-2003, 10:37 AM

How about Joey Benjamin (Eng)? He made his only appearance in Devon Malcolm's Match - "You guys are history" and performed well. In the South African first innings, he picked up a more than creditable 4-42 then later in the season he got injured (again) and never figured in the minds of the selectors again.

Richard Johnson's had more than his fair share of misfortune - he was selected three times before making his debut.

Kiwi · 23-07-2003, 05:24 PM

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Originally posted by vishnureddy

Gary Stead ( NZ ) - Scored a good fighting half century against India when NZ last toured India but never heard of him again after that series.

Yeah poor guy. was talking to him on Sunday at the nets. He has performed well every year for Canterbury and did nothing wrong while with NZ.

I thought he would be perfect opening with Richardson. Both guttsy players that are hard to get out.

Tim · 23-07-2003, 06:09 PM

I'd say the chances of Gary Stead playing international cricket are well gone unless Bracewell doesn't care about age.

Kiwi · 23-07-2003, 06:40 PM

They are certainly gone. He has just lost the Canterbury Captaincy so that tells me he is only a year or two left in him and he wants someone to get more experience

Mr Mxyzptlk · 23-07-2003, 06:47 PM

Dave Mohammed. :P (Ok ok, I have a slight bias

)

Surely Martin Bicknell and Adam Hollioake are among the unlucky ones. Before recently I would also have said Collymore, but we all know how that scenarion played out...

V Reddy · 23-07-2003, 07:23 PM

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Originally posted by anilramavarma
How can Rathore be considered unlucky if he was given a chance and failed miserably showing that he was clearly out of his depth in the international arena?

Well not quite unlucky :P but he scored so many runs in those tours that i had to put him there. But atleast he got fair share of his chances.

The Argonaut · 23-07-2003, 07:51 PM

Jamie Siddons - was a good player for Victoria and South Australia who never got a go.

Darren Lehmann is probably unlucky not to play 100 tests. he's getting a go now but has only 2 more years in him I think.

Deja moo · 24-07-2003, 12:26 AM

Subhash Gupte and Padmakar Shivalkar....
Erapalli Prasanna considers Gupte a better leggie than Shane Warne..he had more variations than Warne and Prasanna says that had Gupte played for India, he would have been better than Warne........Unfortunately for Gupte, he played at a time when the spin quartet ruled the roost in the indian team....no place for more spinners....so he never played a test.....Padmakar Shivalkar is considered by many to be one of the best indians to have never played a test....

Mr. P · 24-07-2003, 12:49 AM

jamie cox is probably unlucky not to have played a test or two after his outstanding tassie performances.

V Reddy · 24-07-2003, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by orangepitch
Subhash Gupte and Padmakar Shivalkar....
Erapalli Prasanna considers Gupte a better leggie than Shane Warne..

Isn't Gupte the same bowler whom Sobers considers as the best leg spinner too. I think he settled in Trinidad or some other carribean island and died when Inda was touring WI last year.

Mr. P · 24-07-2003, 02:34 AM

who cares about prasanna, if sobers considers this guy a better spinner than warne thats good enough for me

luckyeddie · 24-07-2003, 02:57 AM

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Originally posted by Mr. Ponting
who cares about prasanna, if sobers considers this guy a better spinner than warne thats good enough for me

Prasanna's opinion definitely counts for me (not more so than Sobers - but he was quality himself).

He was the bowler for whom the words 'canny' and 'guile' were invented for. Not the biggest spinner, but lovely to watch in conjunction with Chandra, Venkat, Bedi et al.

Mr. P · 24-07-2003, 03:02 AM

how come De Groots not in your signiture anymore?

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V Reddy International Debutant Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Hyderabad,India Posts: 2,550	Most Unluckiest Players Mine would be A Stuart (AUS)- he took a hat-trick against Pak and after that never heard his name again. Gary Stead ( NZ ) - Scored a good fighting half century against India when NZ last toured India but never heard of him again after that series. David Johnson ( Ind ) - Was the highest wicket taker against provinial teams when India toured SAF in 1997 , got to play in one test , took 2-47 and was dropped from even his state side Karnataka within 6 months. Vikram Rathore ( India ) - Scored tons and tons of runs when he was with the Indian team in 1996-97 against County teams in Eng and Provinces in SAF but failed miserably in Test matches. I remember Gavascar saying about a player ( can't remeber his name ) who made debut for India in the same series in which he did - that he was a very very talented player and one of the best he has seen . He was brilliantly caught by Sobers when he was playing well in his only innings and after that he never played for India again. While in the same series , Sobers dropped 2 very easy catches in his 1st test innings and after that he never looked back. He was saying how luck plays an important part in one's career. __________________ www.somdev.com www.nehasworld.com

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23-07-2003, 06:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tim Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Auckland Posts: 7,888	I'd say the chances of Gary Stead playing international cricket are well gone unless Bracewell doesn't care about age.

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Kiwi State Vice-Captain Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,079	They are certainly gone. He has just lost the Canterbury Captaincy so that tells me he is only a year or two left in him and he wants someone to get more experience

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The Argonaut State Vice-Captain Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brisbane Australia Posts: 1,351	Jamie Siddons - was a good player for Victoria and South Australia who never got a go. Darren Lehmann is probably unlucky not to play 100 tests. he's getting a go now but has only 2 more years in him I think.

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Mr. P International Vice-Captain Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: . Posts: 4,710	jamie cox is probably unlucky not to have played a test or two after his outstanding tassie performances.

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