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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Who bats at seven though? Don't think Broad is ready for it - certainly didn't seem to be at Headingley.
    Well a 7,8,9 of Broad, Swann and Plunkett? is pretty decent I'd say.
    Large part depends on the make up of the bowling attack really. Who is going to play? Broad, Swann, Onions, Anderson and....?
    Must be forgetting somebody

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    Luke Wright?
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    RIP Craigos. A true CW legend. You will be missed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    Luke Wright?
    In which case Wright, Broad, Swann as a 7-9 is strong. Whether Wright's bowling will stand up in Test matches is another question.

    Edit : Or his batting for that matter

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    If we wind up playing Wright at 7, it's almost like he plays the same 'spare man' role he often plays in ODIs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GeraintIsMyHero View Post
    If we wind up playing Wright at 7, it's almost like he plays the same 'spare man' role he often plays in ODIs.
    Yeah but there's not many options besides him. Nobody offers the same balance that Flintoff does, we either strengthen the batting and go with a 4 man attack + part timers or we can go with a 5 man attack. People like Wright and Plunkett are a bit of a bodged attempt at doing both of these things and we aren't necessarily better off for trying to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    Well a 7,8,9 of Broad, Swann and Plunkett? is pretty decent I'd say.
    Large part depends on the make up of the bowling attack really. Who is going to play? Broad, Swann, Onions, Anderson and....?
    Must be forgetting somebody
    Putting the various parts of your post together, Broad, Swann, Onions, Anderson and Plunkett perhaps?

    My preference generally is to stack the batting a bit. Broad is an excellent 8 but a poor 7.

    For me:

    Strauss
    Cook
    Trott
    KP
    Collingwood
    Prior
    Morgan
    Broad
    Swann
    Anderson
    Onions

    Which means plenty of fill-in filth from Collingwood, Trotsky and KP, but they ought all to be up to the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
    Putting the various parts of your post together, Broad, Swann, Onions, Anderson and Plunkett perhaps?

    My preference generally is to stack the batting a bit. Broad is an excellent 8 but a poor 7.

    For me:

    Strauss
    Cook
    Trott
    KP
    Collingwood
    Prior
    Morgan
    Broad
    Swann
    Anderson
    Onions

    Which means plenty of fill-in filth from Collingwood, Trotsky and KP, but they ought all to be up to the job.
    I meant somebody other than Plunkett as the person I'd forgotten. I'll check the squad as it wasn't Wright either.
    Don't fancy that side to bowl SA twice on an early season deck.

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    yet another great great day for cricket. aus vs wi. eng vs sa. sehwag playing so well and nz vs pak. all top 8 teams playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcuss View Post
    I meant somebody other than Plunkett as the person I'd forgotten. I'll check the squad as it wasn't Wright either.
    Don't fancy that side to bowl SA twice on an early season deck.
    Our only hope is that they play 5 batsmen and McLaren at 6.
    The sad reality is that our bowling doesn't really get better than those 4. Plunkett and Wright somewhat short of Test class imho although (perhaps unlike others) I would be delighted to be proved wrong there.

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    Yeah I'd like them to exceed expectation, always hope.
    The player I'd forgotten was Widebottom but that doesn't do anything for the batting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoyBrumby View Post
    It doesn't necessarily, I agree. I'd prefer it to ODI failure as an indicator for likelihood of test apptitude tho.

    Morgan does look to have something about him. He might not quite be ready for tests, but it would be refreshing to see our selectors give the new bloke a go rather than rounding up the usual suspects the next time a spot in the top six becomes open.
    Morgan might want to do something at First Class level first before thinking about a Test call up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zaremba View Post
    Quite happy with Prior at 6. I wouldn't bat him at 7 just because he's the keeper. If we play 7 batsmen including him, great, but in that case Morgan would be just fine at 7. It's where Alec Stewart started (as a pure batsman at that stage) IIRC.
    Well yes i woudn't have a problem with this when the time comes. Once Broad aint batting at @ 7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Morgan might want to do something at First Class level first before thinking about a Test call up.
    He will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussie View Post
    He will.
    Yeah, but once he does so we shouldn't pay too much attention to it, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GingerFurball View Post
    Yeah, but once he does so we shouldn't pay too much attention to it, right?
    We shouldn't. But given Bell is useless & our FC system isn't producing the goods i would be batting Morgan @ 6 in the first test already based on ODI form.

    Its not very English, but it wont kill us to take a leaf out of the books of the like asians, WI & NZ are start picking on raw talent just once.



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