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    Bangladesh still play tests?

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    Shakib is pretty good

    should see how he performs when he is part of better teams
    And smalishah's avatar is the most classy one by far Jan certainly echoes the sentiments of CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    Shakib is pretty good

    should see how he performs when he is part of better teams
    When will that be?
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    as in if he plays county cricket or something?


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    Quote Originally Posted by smalishah84 View Post
    as in if he plays county cricket or something?
    Shakib played/plays for Worcs and did bowl well.

    Actually he did play with Ajmal in T20s for Worcs, didn't he?
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    give 21yo smith a break. bradmans figures for his first few tests were comparable.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Days of Grace View Post
    Bangladesh still play tests?
    WTH is this test cricket????

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howe_zat View Post
    When will that be?
    Genuinely 'd
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    Thank **** he's getting support now, clearly some player is Shakib.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
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    That's some good timing.
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    Dang

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    Massive gun or what?

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    Will back him to be one of the great ODI allrounders. A real gem in that format. In tests I'll back him to be somewhere between Vettori and Cairns.
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    Bumpity Bump.

    Lets see how Shakib compares to other great ODI allrounders.

    First note - The runs/wickets of all 3552 completed ODIs since 1971 is 29.62. The economy rate is 4.74 - translates to a strike rate of 79.

    Aggregate/overall records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

    Naturally there have been changes across eras and ODIs keep evolving, and as such we should keep all that in mind when making comparisons. Nevertheless, using this information, I have set a cut-off of 3000 runs and 100 wickets to evaluate the 'ATG' ODI allrounders. Shakib comfortably fits both criteria, which helps for this analysis.

    Only 30 cricketers have achieved this:

    All-round records | One-Day Internationals | Cricinfo Statsguru | ESPN Cricinfo

    Now...this list is littered with batsmen who bowled part time (Sachin, Richards, Ganguly, De Silva) and has Wasim who was a bowler who could bat. Use this data to compare and contrast as you will, but some interesting notes:

    - If you sort by 'Average Difference', Shakib ends up a very respectable 7th on the list, above names like Symonds, Pollock, Razzaq, Dev and Cairns. Only Viv Richards has a higher Average Difference out of spin-bowling allrounders, although calling him an allrounder (bowling average of 35.83) is a bit generous.

    - Shakib is also 6th overall in terms of bowling averages, and 13th in batting average (behind batsmen like Sachin, Richards, Ganguly, Gayle and Cronje).

    - Infact, only 7 players in this list average below 30 with the ball; Shakib's batting average is the second highest behind Klusener (who averages more than him with the ball). So basically...no one has both a higher batting average and a lower bowling average than Shakib.

    Now these stats might be a bit different if you filter by Test playing nations only, and consideration should be given to match-winning performances, the era they played in, and performance in global events.I cbf to do any of those now.

    Shakib is still only 27. His best years should be ahead of him, both as a batsman and as a spinner. He's definitely making it hard to ignore his name in ATG ODI XI discussions.

    Thoughts?
    Last edited by zorax; 23-11-2014 at 05:07 AM.

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    Shakib's a great for me in both formats. But more so in tests than ODIs. He's always awesome in tests and has delivered the goods consistently even against the best sides. His ODI record on the other hand flatters him somewhat because unlike in tests, Bangladesh have played other crap sides like Zimbabwe and the associates a lot in ODI cricket. Wouldn't put him above the other great ODI all rounders like Flintoff, Watson, Jayasuriya,Klusener.

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