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social 27-07-2009 01:48 AM

Leading Oz coaches refuse to teach doosra
 
Doosra ruled un-Australian by coaches - Cricket - Sport - smh.com.au

Doesnt seem to matter what ICC says, these "experts" say that it is impossible to deliver it legally and so wont teach it

Streetwise 27-07-2009 03:00 AM

Someone has to make a stand against chucking.

Andre 27-07-2009 03:15 AM

Noble jesture, but can't help but think it will further handicap spin bowling in Australia - and ensure that batsmen don't get exposure to the delivery before international cricket.

IMO, they are spot on though - it's impossible to deliver it without chucking. Unfortunately, though, it ain't going away.

chaminda_00 27-07-2009 03:44 AM

How can they teach something in the first place, none of them know how to bowl?

vic_orthdox 27-07-2009 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by chaminda_00 (Post 1987847)
How can they teach something in the first place, none of them know how to bowl?

Haha, exactly what I was going to say.

pasag 27-07-2009 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Andre (Post 1987834)
and ensure that batsmen don't get exposure to the delivery before international cricket.

Yeah, my biggest concern.

Aritro 27-07-2009 05:23 AM

Ill considered and sanctimonious nonsense.

It's amazing that a gathering of the top people at the national Academy have actually got together and effectively agreed to sabotage the country's prospects.

four_or_six 27-07-2009 05:39 AM

Whether all doosra's are throws or not, if they don't know how to coach it without teaching the bowler to throw it they certainly shouldn't do. Either don't teach it, or find a coach who can teach it legally.

Neil Pickup 27-07-2009 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Aritro (Post 1987927)
Ill considered and sanctimonious nonsense.

It's amazing that a gathering of the top people at the national Academy have actually got together and effectively agreed to sabotage the country's prospects.

Everyone else is taking drugs. You might as well do so too, right?

Fusion 27-07-2009 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Neil Pickup (Post 1988032)
Everyone else is taking drugs. You might as well do so too, right?

Hadn’t realized that taking drugs was legalized by the ICC.

duffer 27-07-2009 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chaminda_00 (Post 1987847)
How can they teach something in the first place, none of them know how to bowl?

Heh, close thread.

cover drive man 27-07-2009 08:08 AM

Hate to sound ignorant here, but what is a doosra?

Aritro 27-07-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Neil Pickup (Post 1988032)
Everyone else is taking drugs. You might as well do so too, right?

Pretty wayward analogy there.

If taking drugs was legal, not taking them was somehow detrimental to results, and you were put in charge of getting those results, then yes, you may as well do so.

Richard 27-07-2009 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by cover drive man (Post 1988137)
Hate to sound ignorant here, but what is a doosra?

Effectively it's whatever each person defines it as. Unlike the Googly or the outswinger, it has no concrete definition.

The closest to something would be the fingerspinner's alternate delivery that turns in the opposite direction from the standard fingerspinner's break. But many insist on dubbing Murali's wrong-'un a Doosra as well, despite Murali being completely different to any other bowler so far to exist.

Either way, what a laughable thing for this set of coaches to do. "Ill-considered sanctimonious nonsense" just about sums it up. It is impossible for a delivery to be impossible to bowl legally, unless that delivery specifically involves straightening the elbow by more than 15 degrees. The Doosra is all about the wrist and fingers and if the elbow is forced straight in the course of the bowling action then it would indeed still be possible to bowl.

Athlai 27-07-2009 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cover drive man (Post 1988137)
Hate to sound ignorant here, but what is a doosra?

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