Just because a personal coach can be a good thing for some players doesn't mean wide-serving coaches who teach the same thing to lots of players are no use.
What I'm coming to disagree with is - at high levels at least, less so at grass-roots - coaches who supposedly excel in all areas. I much prefer specialist fielding, batting, seam-bowling and spin-bowling coaches.
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I'm not sure a bloke like Anil Kumble would have taken 600 odd test wickets, had someone told him stop bowling his fastish top-spinners and start concentrating on developing a leggie that turns.
That's where I don't think people like Mallet or Jenner and other Aussie spin coaches and mentors have been smart enough to adapt their coaching methods keeping in mind the kind of individual they are working with.
Ask smack orthdox - he seemed to be saying precisely that earlier this thread.
All I've heard is hundreds of people saying the same thing - that Jenner doesn't really know tonnes about bowling wristspin, merely got lucky with Warne, and in trying to turn everyone else into Warnes has turned some bowlers who might've been good enough to play grade first team into nothing of the sort and bowlers barely able to bowl any more.
Evidence would be to name some of these players that might've been good enough to play grade first team turned into nothing of the sort and bowlers barely able to bowl any more, Carrying on about White is futile because his own mentor Hookes was the first to tell White that he would only ever be a batsman who could bowl a few overs and would never be a bowler.All I've heard is hundreds of people saying the same thing - that Jenner doesn't really know tonnes about bowling wristspin, merely got lucky with Warne, and in trying to turn everyone else into Warnes has turned some bowlers who might've been good enough to play grade first team into nothing of the sort and bowlers barely able to bowl any more.
If you are going to provide evidence of something I would expect it to be more than you read it on some forum.
Far more than just reading on some forum. Have heard lots of people say\write it, and have heard lots of others talk\write about how they've heard others say\write it.
If you expect me to have recorded or bookmarked every instance I've heard and read though, I'm afraid you're asking too much.
I never mentioned White FTR so don't know why you're directing that comment at me, haven't the first clue about who's coached him all career.
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Basically saying he thinks the delivery is a chuck. Or gets as close as the threat of litigation and politeness allows a national selector to, anyway.
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