Players of the Decade (opinions)

[MrIncredible]

I'm new to this forum and I dont know if this has been done b4 but I was wondering how my fellow cricket fans rated players of each decade in the following disciplines:

Batsman
F Bowler
Spinner
All rounder

I'll go first:

30s
Batsman: Bradman
F Bowler:Larwood??
Spinner: O'reilly
AR: Mankad?

50s
Batsman: Walcott??
F Bowler: Lindwall
Spinner: Laker
AR: Miller

60s

Batsman: Sobers
F Bowler: Trueman
Spinner: Gupte ??
AR: Sobers

70s

Batsman: G Chappell
F Bowler: D Lillee
Spinner: D Underwood
AR: M Mohammed

80s

Batsman: Viv
F Bowler: Marshall
Spinner: Qadir
AR: Imran

90s

Batsman: S Waugh
F Bowler: Ambrose ??
Spinner: Warne
AR: Cant think of ne tbh maybe Christ Cairns

00s

Batsman: Ponting
F Bowler: Mcgrath
Spinner: Murali
AR: Kallis

All comments and rankings are welcomed!!

 

[wfdu_ben91]

Steve Waugh over Tendulkar in the 90s?

1990's
Opening Batsman: Gary Kirsten
Middle-Order Batsman: Sachin Tendulkar
Wicketkeeper: Ian Healy
Allrounder: Chris Cairns
Pace Bowler: Curtly Ambrose
Spin Bowler: Shane Warne

2000's
Opening Batsman: Matthew Hayden
Middle-Order Batsman: Ricky Ponting
Wicketkeeper: Adam Gilchrist
Allrounder: Jacques Kallis
Pace Bowler: Glenn McGrath
Spin Bowler: Shane Warne

 

[Shri]

IMO,

90s:

Batsman: Sachin Tendulkar
'keeper batsman: Andy Flower
Fast bowler: Alan Donald
Spinner: Shane Warne
AR: Shaun Pollock (Bowling AR)

Didn't live up to potential: Vinod Kambli

00s:

Batsman: Jacques Kallis
'keeper batsman: Kumar Sangakkara / MS Dhoni
Fast bowler: Glenn McGrath
Spinner: Muralitharan
AR: Andrew Symonds (Batting AR)

Didn't live up to potential: Irfan Pathan

 

[SJS]

Since I have the stats ready let me try to hlp you guys by providing them

 

[SJS]

First the Batsmen. I have taken the top ten run scorers of each decade. After that I will list the one player who does not figure in the list due to runs but is high on averages.
Take your pick

1880's
(includes the few matches of 1870's)

[B]Country	Player      	Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]
ENG	A Shrewsbury	31	3	2	2	164	963	34.39
AUS	P S McDonnell	34	1	2	3	147	950	28.79
AUS	W L Murdoch	27	5	1	2	211	849	38.59
AUS	A C Bannerman	39	2	5	0	94	745	20.14
ENG	G Ulyett	34	0	4	1	149	726	21.35
ENG	W Barnes	30	2	5	1	134	706	25.21
ENG	W Bates    	26	2	5	0	64	656	27.33
ENG	A G Steel	20	3	0	2	148	600	35.29
ENG	W W Read	19	0	4	1	117	595	31.32
ENG	R G Barlow	30	4	2	0	62	591	22.73

[COLOR="DarkRed"]ENG	W G Grace	16	1	0	2	170	542	36.13[/COLOR]

1890's

[B]Country	Player       	Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]
AUS	J Darling	33	1	4	3	178	1139	35.59
AUS	S E Gregory	42	3	4	3	201	1096	28.1
ENG	T W Hayward	24	2	3	3	137	976	44.36
ENG	Ranjitsinhji	22	4	6	2	175	970	53.89
ENG	A E Stoddart	28	2	3	2	173	963	37.04
ENG	A C MacLaren	30	3	3	3	124	933	34.56
AUS	G H S Trott	36	0	4	1	143	884	24.56
AUS	F A Iredale	23	1	4	2	140	807	36.68
AUS	Clem Hill	19	0	5	2	188	783	41.21
AUS	G Giffen	26	0	5	1	161	775	29.81

[COLOR="DarkRed"]ENG	F S Jackson	16	1	2	2	118	612	40.8[/COLOR]

1900's
(Includes the years 1911-1914 till the war broke out)

[B]Country	Player       	Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]
AUS	V T Trumper	80	7	12	7	  *214	2883	39.49
AUS	Clem Hill	70	2	14	5	191	2629	38.66
ENG	J B Hobbs	49	6	16	5	187	2465	57.33
AUS	W W Armstrong	71	8	7	3	  *159	2247	35.67
ENG	W Rhodes	73	15	10	2	179	1947	33.57
SAF	G A Faulkner	45	4	8	4	204	1717	41.88
AUS	M A Noble	59	4	12	1	133	1524	27.71
SAF	A W Nourse	60	7	11	0	  *93	1512	28.53
AUS	W Bardsley	33	0	7	5	164	1490	45.15
ENG	J T Tyldesley	47	1	9	3	138	1452	31.57

[COLOR="DarkRed"]AUS	R A Duff	40	3	6	2	146	1317	35.59
AUS	V S Ransford	38	6	7	1	  *143	1211	37.84[/COLOR]

1920's
(from the end of WWI in 1919)

[B]Country	Player       	 Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]
ENG	H Sutcliffe	50	4	13	12	176	2960	64.35
ENG	J B Hobbs	44	1	10	10	211	2644	61.49
ENG	E H Hendren	56	8	14	6	  *205	2446	50.96
ENG	F E Woolley	56	4	14	4	154	2149	41.33
ENG	W R Hammond	29	4	5	6	251	1689	67.56
SAF	H W Taylor	37	2	9	5	176	1612	46.06
AUS	J Ryder	32	5	9	3	  *201	1394	51.63
SAF	R H Catterall	36	2	9	3	120	1378	40.53
AUS	H L Collins	31	1	6	4	203	1352	45.07
AUS	C G Macartney	21	3	3	6	170	1252	69.56

[COLOR="DarkRed"]ENG	C A G Russell	18	2	2	5	140	910	56.88[/COLOR]

1930's

[B]Country	Player       	 Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]
ENG	W R Hammond	98	11	17	16	  *336	5194	59.7
AUS	D G Bradman	49	4	6	19	334	4625	102.78
AUS	S J McCabe	62	5	13	6	232	2748	48.21
ENG	M Leyland	55	4	7	7	187	2280	44.71
ENG	L E G Ames	65	11	7	7	149	2193	40.61
SAF	B Mitchell	51	6	13	5	  *164	2148	47.73
WIN	G A Headley	29	3	5	7	  *270	1665	64.04
AUS	W H Ponsford	32	3	5	5	266	1604	55.31
ENG	H Sutcliffe	34	5	10	4	194	1595	55
ENG	E Paynter	31	5	7	4	243	1540	59.23

[COLOR="DarkRed"]ENG	L Hutton	21	1	3	5	364	1345	67.25[/COLOR]

1940's

[B]Country	Player       	 Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]
ENG	D C S Compton	48	5	10	11	208	2664	61.95
ENG	L Hutton	51	4	14	6	206	2443	51.98
ENG	C Washbrook	46	5	10	4	195	1962	47.85
AUS	D G Bradman	23	5	5	8	234	1903	105.72
AUS	A R Morris	30	3	4	9	196	1830	67.78
ENG	W J Edrich	33	1	9	5	191	1699	53.09
SAF	A D Nourse	28	3	10	5	149	1562	62.48
AUS	A L Hassett	26	2	4	5	  *198	1395	58.13
IND	V S Hazare	25	3	4	4	145	1095	49.77
SAF	B Mitchell	20	2	6	3	  *189	1072	59.56

[COLOR="DarkRed"]WIN	E D C Weekes	13	0	2	5	194	1072	82.46[/COLOR]

1950's

[B]Country	Player       	 Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]
AUS	R N Harvey	98	6	18	13	205	4314	46.89
ENG	P B H May	98	8	20	13	  *285	4265	47.39
WIN	E D C Weekes	68	5	17	10	207	3383	53.7
WIN	C L Walcott	60	6	12	13	220	3213	59.5
ENG	L Hutton	66	10	16	8	205	3183	56.84
ENG	M C Cowdrey	71	4	18	8	160	2931	43.75
WIN	G S A Sobers	54	8	8	9	  *365	2922	63.52
WIN	F M M Worrell	59	4	11	8	261	2717	49.4
ENG	D C S Compton	71	7	16	4	278	2675	41.8
AUS	C C McDonald	68	4	13	5	170	2675	41.8
ENG	T W Graveney	76	10	11	4	258	2590	39.24

[COLOR="DarkRed"]PAK	Hanif Mohammad	48	3	9	5	337	1937	43.04[/COLOR]

 

[SJS]

1960's

[B]Country	Player       	Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]

ENG	K F Barrington	113	15	30	18	256	5977	60.99
AUS	W M Lawry	113	10	24	13	210	4910	47.67
ENG	M C Cowdrey	100	11	19	14	182	4297	48.28
AUS	R B Simpson	84	6	23	8	311	3995	51.22
WIN	G S A Sobers	78	9	18	12	174	3854	55.86
ENG	E R Dexter	83	7	24	6	205	3706	48.76
WIN	R B Kanhai	68	1	16	9	153	3414	50.96
ENG	J H Edrich	63	4	10	8	  *310	2711	45.95
ENG	G Boycott	70	9	13	6	  *246	2609	42.77
IND	Pataudi Jr	71	2	14	6	  *203	2552	36.99

[COLOR="DarkRed"]SAF	R G Pollock	41	4	11	7	274	2256	60.97
AUS	K D Walters	42	4	14	7	242	2250	59.21[/COLOR]

1970's

[B]Country	Player       	 Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]

IND	S M Gavaskar	114	8	25	23	221	5974	56.36
AUS	G S Chappell	107	15	24	17	  *247	5065	55.05
IND	G R Viswanath	113	8	28	10	179	4669	44.47
WIN	Kallicharran	97	9	21	12	187	4217	47.92
ENG	G Boycott	83	10	21	12	191	3948	54.08
WIN	R C Fredericks	90	7	22	8	169	3809	45.89
WIN	C H Lloyd	89	5	17	9	  *242	3739	44.51
ENG	A W Greig	93	4	20	8	148	3599	40.44
AUS	I M Chappell	82	6	18	10	196	3578	47.08
ENG	A P E Knott	112	10	23	5	135	3509	34.4

[COLOR="DarkRed"]PAK	Javed Miandad	51	12	12	7	206	2433	62.38
WIN	I V A Richards	51	2	11	9	291	2886	58.9
AUS	I R Redpath	56	5	15	7	171	2578	50.55[/COLOR]

1980's

[B]Country	Player       	Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]

AUS	A R Border	161	30	39	18	205	7046	53.79
ENG	D I Gower	152	10	31	12	215	6068	42.73
PAK	Javed Miandad	107	6	26	15	  *280	5458	54.04
WIN	I V A Richards	112	8	26	15	208	5021	48.28
WIN	C G Greenidge	119	12	21	12	223	4853	45.36
WIN	D L Haynes	135	16	27	10	184	4775	40.13
IND	D B Vengsarkar	111	16	22	12	166	4487	47.23
IND	S M Gavaskar	100	8	20	11	  *236	4148	45.09
ENG	G A Gooch	103	2	22	8	196	3869	38.31
ENG	M W Gatting	114	14	18	9	207	3859	38.59

[COLOR="DarkRed"]WIN	R B Richardson	80	7	13	10	194	3397	46.53
NZL	M D Crowe	79	7	11	11	188	3288	45.67[/COLOR]

1990's

[B]Country	Player       	Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]

AUS	M E Waugh	171	13	38	17	  *153	6593	41.73
ENG	A J Stewart	168	11	35	12	190	6472	41.22
AUS	S R Waugh	144	28	29	19	200	6390	55.09
ENG	M A Atherton	171	6	39	13	  *185	6330	38.36
AUS	M A Taylor	159	11	32	13	  *334	5907	39.91
IND	S R Tendulkar	111	12	21	22	217	5704	57.62
WIN	B C Lara	112	4	29	13	375	5573	51.6
SRL	P A de Silva	108	9	18	15	267	4645	46.92
AUS	M J Slater	110	5	16	14	219	4603	43.84
AUS	D C Boon	102	13	18	13	  *164	4236	47.6
PAK	Inzamam-ul-Haq	103	12	25	9	  *200	4072	44.75

[COLOR="DarkRed"]ENG	G A Gooch	79	1	16	12	333	4048	51.9
PAK	Saeed Anwar	79	2	23	9	  *188	3583	46.53[/COLOR]

2000's

[B]Country	Player       	Inns	 NO	 50s	 100s	 HS	 Runs	 Avg[/B]

AUS	R T Ponting	168	20	36	30	257	8727	58.97
AUS	M L Hayden	170	14	29	29	380	8325	53.37
SAF	J H Kallis	163	25	40	25	  *189	8079	58.54
IND	R Dravid	167	23	41	20	270	7979	55.41
SRL	Jayawardene	139	11	27	23	374	7165	55.98
SRL	K C Sangakkara	132	9	30	18	287	6764	54.99
IND	S R Tendulkar	140	15	29	20	  *248	6737	53.9
WIN	B C Lara	118	2	19	21	  *400	6339	54.65
SAF	G C Smith	133	9	25	18	277	6330	51.05
WIN	S Chanderpaul	139	25	34	19	  *203	6199	54.38

[COLOR="DarkRed"]PAK	Mohammad Yousuf	101	11	18	22	223	5709	63.43	
PAK	Inzamam-ul-Haq	95	10	21	16	329	4757	55.96	
AUS	M E K Hussey	64	9	14	9	182	3041	55.29	
ENG	G P Thorpe	74	15	15	10	  *200	3145	53.31	
PAK	Younis Khan	100	7	19	15	313	4928	52.99	
SRL	T T Samaraweera	75	11	18	9	231	3269	51.08	
ENG	K P Pietersen	92	4	14	16	226	4445	50.51	
SAF	G Kirsten	71	6	13	11	220	3268	50.28	
IND	V Sehwag	117	4	17	15	319	5674	50.21	[/COLOR]

I have intentionally put so many players in that red section in the 2000's to show what hordes of super-batsmen cricket has started producing all of a sudden

 

[The Sean]

IMO,

00s:

'keeper batsman: Kumar Sangakkara / MS Dhoni
AR: Andrew Symonds (Batting AR)

Dhoni ahead of Gilchrist, and Symonds ahead of Kallis or Flintoff (or several other players)? Would be interested to hear your reasoning.

 

[SJS]

The Bowlers

1880's

[B]Country	Player       	 O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]

AUS	F R Spofforth	1002.1	407	1620	90	7	4	 7/44	18	44.54
AUS	G E Palmer	1129.1	452	1678	78	6	2	 7/65	21.51	57.91
ENG	J Briggs	387.1	196	437	55	5	2	 8/11	7.95	29.33
ENG	R Peel       	552.3	264	690	54	3	1	 7/31	12.78	40.94
ENG	W Bates    	591	282	821	50	4	1	 7/28	16.42	47.28
AUS	C T B Turner	435.3	207	509	50	8	2	 7/43	10.18	34.86
ENG	G A Lohmann	372.1	187	524	49	4	2	 8/35	10.69	30.39
ENG	W Barnes	557.1	266	767	49	3	0	 6/28	15.65	45.49
ENG	G Ulyett	568.1	260	886	43	1	0	 7/36	20.6	53.35
AUS	J J Ferris	366.1	174	513	35	3	0	 5/26	14.66	41.86

[COLOR="DarkRed"]AUS	H F Boyle	436	175	641	32	1	0	 6/42	20.03	54.5
ENG	A G Steel	341	108	605	29	0	0	 3/27	20.86	47.03[/COLOR]

1890's

[B]Country	Player       	 O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]

ENG	T Richardson	790	191	2220	88	11	4	 8/94	25.23	51.1
AUS	G Giffen	751.4	227	1844	74	6	1	 7/128	24.92	57.34
ENG	G A Lohmann	428.4	177	681	63	5	3	 9/28	10.81	37.02
AUS	H Trumble	757.4	241	1615	63	3	1	 6/30	25.63	64.4
ENG	J Briggs	665.1	189	1657	63	4	2	 6/49	26.3	60.05
AUS	E Jones    	564.3	129	1519	56	3	1	 7/88	27.13	54.61
AUS	C T B Turner	621.5	250	1161	51	3	0	 6/67	22.76	67.69
ENG	J T Hearne	551.4	211	1082	49	4	1	 6/41	22.08	60.73
ENG	R Peel       	521.1	180	1025	47	2	0	 6/23	21.81	63.94
AUS	M A Noble	321.3	106	791	32	2	0	 6/49	24.72	54.94

[COLOR="DarkRed"]SAF	J Middleton	181.3	57	371	23	2	0	 5/51	16.13	39.48[/COLOR]

1900's

[B]Country	Player	 O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]
ENG	S F Barnes	1312.1	356	3106	189	24	7	 9/103	16.43	41.66
ENG	C Blythe	739.4	231	1863	100	9	4	 8/59	18.63	44.38
ENG	W Rhodes	850.1	194	2274	92	6	1	 8/68	24.72	55.45
AUS	M A Noble	891.5	255	2234	89	7	2	 7/17	25.1	60.12
AUS	A Cotter	772.1	86	2549	89	7	0	 7/148	28.64	52.06
SAF	G A Faulkner	687.3	124	2093	82	4	0	 7/84	25.52	50.3
AUS	J V Saunders	594.1	116	1796	79	6	0	 7/34	22.73	45.13
AUS	H Trumble	673.4	211	1457	78	6	2	 8/65	18.68	51.82
AUS	W W Armstrong	1107.1	330	2507	70	3	0	 6/35	35.81	94.9
AUS	W J Whitty	559.3	163	1373	65	3	0	 6/17	21.12	51.65

[COLOR="DarkRed"]ENG	F R Foster	407.5	108	926	45	4	0	 6/91	20.58	54.38
SAF	A E E Vogler	460.4	96	1455	64	5	1	 7/94	22.73	43.19[/COLOR]

1920's

[B]Country	Player       	 O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]
ENG	M W Tate	1403.5	402	2969	118	6	1	 6/42	25.16	76.74
AUS	A A Mailey	938.3	115	3358	99	6	2	 9/121	33.92	61.81
AUS	J M Gregory	861	138	2648	85	4	0	 7/69	31.15	65.67
ENG	A P Freeman	581.4	142	1707	66	5	3	 7/71	25.86	56.55
AUS	C V Grimmett	623.5	160	1520	47	5	1	 6/37	32.34	80.96
ENG	F E Woolley	707.5	178	1854	44	1	0	 7/76	42.14	101.52
AUS	E A McDonald	480.5	90	1431	43	2	0	 5/32	33.28	67.09
SAF	Blanckenberg	476.2	88	1389	41	3	0	 6/76	33.88	69.71
ENG	G Geary	512	154	1055	41	4	1	 7/70	25.73	74.93
ENG	H Larwood	506.5	107	1276	41	2	0	 6/32	31.12	74.17

[COLOR="DarkRed"]ENG	A S Kennedy	280.3	91	599	31	2	0	 5/76	19.32	54.29
SAF	A E Hall	347.3	100	734	36	3	1	 7/63	20.39	57.92[/COLOR]

1930's

[B]Country	Player       	 O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]

AUS	C V Grimmett	1784.4	576	3711	169	16	6	 7/40	21.96	63.36
ENG	H Verity	1692.3	604	3510	144	5	2	 8/43	24.38	77.59
AUS	W J O'Reilly	1569	579	3221	136	10	3	 7/54	23.68	72.87
ENG	W Voce	784	162	2117	82	2	1	 6/41	25.82	61.32
ENG	G O B Allen	643	115	2174	76	5	1	 7/80	28.61	54.16
AUS	H Ironmonger	620	269	1024	68	4	2	 7/23	15.06	54.71
ENG	W E Bowes	556.5	123	1446	67	6	0	 6/33	21.58	51.96
ENG	K Farnes	574.6	103	1719	60	3	1	 6/96	28.65	66.13
ENG	R W V Robins	491.2	68	1679	59	1	0	 6/32	28.46	51.86
ENG	W R Hammond	910.1	199	2251	59	1	0	 5/57	38.15	97.58

[COLOR="DarkRed"]ENG	I A R Peebles	396.1	60	1145	40	3	0	 6/63	28.63	59.43
SAF	A J Bell	460	77	1225	40	3	0	 5/69	30.63	69[/COLOR]

1940's

[B]Country	Player       	 O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]

ENG	A V Bedser	1107	231	2959	89	2	2	 7/49	33.25	84.81
AUS	R R Lindwall	570	117	1478	77	5	0	 7/38	19.19	52.99
AUS	W A Johnston	553.7	146	1204	66	2	0	 6/44	18.24	57.77
ENG	D V P Wright	632.1	105	2238	58	4	1	 7/105	38.59	76.64
AUS	K R Miller	473.4	92	1254	57	2	0	 7/60	22	61.4
AUS	I W Johnson	538.2	141	1430	51	2	0	 6/42	28.04	77.22
SAF	N B F Mann	690.2	198	1656	48	1	0	 6/59	34.5	101.33
AUS	E R H Toshack	443.2	155	989	47	4	1	 6/29	21.04	66.81
IND	M H Mankad	586.2	113	1666	40	1	0	 5/101	41.65	96.65
SAF	A M B Rowan	531.4	88	1465	36	2	0	 5/80	40.69	104

[COLOR="DarkRed"]AUS	C L McCool	313	44	958	36	3	0	 5/41	26.61	69.56[/COLOR]

 

[SJS]

1950's

[B]Country	Player       	 O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]

AUS	R Benaud	1842.3	578	4300	181	12	1	 7/72	23.76	68.83
ENG	J B Statham	1670.5	421	4023	169	5	0	 7/39	23.8	63.78
ENG	J C Laker	1539.3	578	2992	162	8	3	 10/53	18.47	60.39
WIN	S Ramadhin	2196.1	809	4441	155	10	1	 7/49	28.65	88.02
AUS	R R Lindwall	1400.2	302	3773	151	7	0	 7/43	24.99	63.38
ENG	F S Trueman	1224.5	294	3234	149	6	0	 8/31	21.7	50.49
ENG	A V Bedser	1317.4	343	2917	147	13	3	 7/44	19.84	56.94
SAF	H J Tayfield	1464.7	513	3225	141	13	2	 9/113	22.87	76.99
IND	S P Gupte	1637	523	3903	134	11	1	 9/102	29.13	73.3
PAK	Fazal Mahmood	1302.3	452	2765	125	12	4	 7/42	22.12	62.52

[COLOR="DarkRed"]ENG	F H Tyson	490.4	97	1411	76	4	1	 7/27	18.57	45.42
ENG	J H Wardle	1026.1	403	2071	102	5	1	 7/36	20.3	64.5
AUS	A K Davidson	1032.4	290	2155	106	5	1	 7/93	20.33	67.06
ENG	G A R Lock	1302.1	524	2554	123	8	3	 7/35	20.76	65.99[/COLOR]

1960's

[B]Country	Player       	 O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]

AUS	G D McKenzie	2519.1	533	6977	239	16	3	 8/71	29.19	70.28
WIN	L R Gibbs	2374.5	733	5124	184	12	2	 8/38	27.85	84.15
ENG	F S Trueman	1223.1	228	3391	158	11	3	 7/44	21.46	48.45
WIN	G S A Sobers	1951.5	500	4877	153	6	0	 6/73	31.88	83.1
ENG	F J Titmus	2146.5	723	4470	145	7	0	 7/79	30.83	94.99
WIN	W W Hall	1099.2	180	3570	124	4	0	 6/49	28.79	57
SAF	P M Pollock	1034	270	2806	116	9	1	 6/38	24.19	56.22
ENG	D A Allen	1619.3	632	3362	113	4	0	 5/30	29.75	89.51
IND	E A S Prasanna	1193.2	344	3057	113	8	1	 6/74	27.05	67.84
AUS	A N Connolly	1136.4	286	2900	101	4	0	 6/47	28.71	75.27

[COLOR="DarkRed"]AUS	A K Davidson	630.1	141	1664	80	9	1	 6/53	20.8	55.99[/COLOR]

1970's

[B]Country	Player       	 O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]

ENG	D L Underwood	2496	818	5905	211	10	4	 8/51	27.99	76.11
AUS	D K Lillee	1597.3	349	5073	209	15	5	 6/26	24.27	53.15
IND	B S Bedi	2544	755	5839	196	10	1	 6/71	29.79	80.73
ENG	R G D Willis	1508	292	4636	184	11	0	 7/78	25.2	55.34
IND	Chandrasekhar	1773	362	5257	180	14	1	 8/79	29.21	62.29
AUS	J R Thomson	1085.4	210	3892	152	6	0	 6/46	25.61	49.78
WIN	A M E Roberts	1249.5	256	3790	148	9	2	 7/54	25.61	54.41
ENG	A W Greig	1556.2	338	4541	141	6	2	 8/86	32.21	69.52
ENG	I T Botham	952	244	2575	139	14	3	 8/34	18.53	44.68
AUS	M H N Walker	1449.2	380	3792	138	6	0	 8/143	27.48	73.14

[COLOR="DarkRed"]ENG	M Hendrick	770	200	1766	78	0	0	 4/28	22.64	64.54
WIN	M A Holding	643.2	149	1903	78	4	1	 8/92	24.4	54.26[/COLOR]

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Since I have the stats ready let me try to hlp you guys by providing them

Please tell me the immoral, sorry immortal, SJS hasn't become a statsmonger.

 

[SJS]

Please tell me the immoral, sorry immortal, SJS hasn't become a statsmonger.

No I havent but since these boys are doing this and are surely going to use stats to argue about it, I thought I might as well give them something I have readily available.

Having said that I am not completely against stats. They do tell you a lot. I just dont think they can be used as a sole barometer to assess the relative merits of two players.

For example from these decade wise figures I can see how the bowling and batting has changed over time. Look at the batting figures of the top batsmen of the 2000's and you can see how many players are getting averages over fifty over a decade. Surely when you compare it to as recent as the seventies you realise how much more difficult batting was (or converselyhow much better the bowling standards were).

Statistics can tell quite a bit if one sees them carefully, objectively but to use them solely as a barometer of comparative strengths of two players is a bit too simplistic and is, if you excuse the smell of condescension, intellectual sloth.

 

[SJS]

1980's

[B]Country	Player       	O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]

WIN	M D Marshall	2399.5	511	6434	323	22	4	 7/22	19.92	44.58
NZL	R J Hadlee	2309.2	628	5574	289	28	7	 9/52	19.29	47.94
IND	Kapil Dev	2815.5	615	8036	272	16	2	 9/83	29.54	62.11
ENG	I T Botham	2650	571	8359	258	15	2	 8/103	32.4	61.63
PAK	Imran Khan	2006.4	483	4896	256	18	5	 8/58	19.13	47.03
PAK	Abdul Qadir	2529.2	548	6980	216	14	5	 9/56	32.31	70.26
WIN	J Garner	1814.3	491	4331	210	7	0	 6/56	20.62	51.84
WIN	M A Holding	1545.2	338	4302	184	9	1	 6/21	23.38	50.39
AUS	G F Lawson	1853	386	5501	180	11	2	 8/112	30.56	61.77
AUS	D K Lillee	1492.5	356	4117	171	11	3	 7/83	24.08	52.38

[COLOR="DarkRed"]WIN	C A Walsh	1102.5	240	2958	122	4	1	 6/62	24.25	54.24
PAK	Iqbal Qasim	1468.2	453	3274	131	7	1	 7/49	24.99	67.25
ENG	R G D Willis	1240.1	274	3679	143	5	0	 8/43	25.73	52.03[/COLOR]

1990's

[B]Country	Player       	O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]

AUS	S K Warne	3762.4	1157	9009	351	16	4	 8/71	25.67	64.32
WIN	C E L Ambrose	2691.2	730	6225	309	21	3	 8/45	20.15	52.26
WIN	C A Walsh	3013.1	624	7891	304	13	1	 7/37	25.96	59.47
PAK	Wasim Akram	2355.4	529	6200	289	17	3	 7/119	21.45	48.91
SAF	A A Donald	2166	544	6200	284	19	3	 8/71	21.83	45.76
PAK	Waqar Younis	1863.1	375	5927	273	21	5	 7/76	21.71	40.95
AUS	G D McGrath	2326	642	6086	266	15	1	 8/38	22.88	52.47
IND	A Kumble	3033.5	786	7341	264	15	3	 10/74	27.81	68.95
SRL	M Muralitharan	2480.2	625	6140	227	17	2	 9/65	27.05	65.56
AUS	C J McDermott	1926.3	450	5597	211	11	2	 8/97	26.53	54.78

[COLOR="DarkRed"]SAF	S M Pollock	1411.4	407	3294	161	10	0	 7/87	20.46	52.61
WIN	I R Bishop	1274.1	250	3541	145	5	0	 6/40	24.42	52.72
ZIM	H H Streak	1027.3	255	2726	111	4	0	 6/90	24.56	55.54[/COLOR]

2000's

[B]Country	Player       	O	 M	 R	 W	 5w	 10w	 Best	 Avg	 S/R[/B]

SRL	M Muralitharan	4255.5	1070	10268	512	48	19	 9/51	20.05	49.87
SAF	M Ntini	3277	707	10651	378	18	4	 7/37	28.18	52.02
IND	A Kumble	3622.3	755	10627	343	19	5	 8/141	30.98	63.37
AUS	S K Warne	2867.1	567	8490	342	21	6	 7/94	24.82	50.3
IND	Harbhajan Singh	3292.5	619	9230	309	23	5	 8/84	29.87	63.94
AUS	B Lee	2585.3	502	9057	279	8	0	 5/30	32.46	55.6
AUS	G D McGrath	2397.3	780	5728	275	12	1	 8/24	20.83	52.31
ENG	M J Hoggard	2318.1	492	7564	248	7	1	 7/61	30.5	56.08
SAF	S M Pollock	2513	750	6175	246	6	1	 6/30	25.1	61.29
SRL	W P U Vaas	2496.1	585	6837	233	8	1	 7/71	29.34	64.28

[COLOR="DarkRed"]PAK	Shoaib Akhtar	884.3	166	2961	133	10	2	 6/11	22.26	39.9
SAF	D W Steyn	1112.4	200	4029	170	11	3	 6/49	23.7	39.27[/COLOR]

 

[Shri]

Dhoni ahead of Gilchrist, and Symonds ahead of Kallis or Flintoff (or several other players)? Would be interested to hear your reasoning.

No reasoning. Just players that I enjoyed watching more than others. Thats why I added IMO at the start of the post.

 

[SJS]

Okay here is a try

[B]Decade	Batsman   	Pacer         	Spinner     	All Rounder[/B]

1880's	Grace        	Spofforth   	Peel          	Ulyett
1890's	Ranji         	Lohmann   	Peel          	Noble
1900's	Hobbs       	Barnes      	Rhodes     	Faulkner
1920's	Hobbs       	Tate          	Freeman    	Gregory
1930's	Bradman   	Larwood    	Grimmett	Hammond
1940's	Bradman   	Lindwall	Toshack    	Miller
1950's	Sobers      	Hall           	Laker        	Benaud
1960's	Sobers      	Trueman    	Prasanna	Sobers
1970's	Gavaskar	Lillee	        Chandrashekhar	Botham
1980's	Richards	Hadlee/Marshall	Qadir	        Imran
1990's	Tendulkar	Donald      	Warne       	Cairns
2000's	Ponting     	McGrath    	Muralitharan	Kallis

 

[aussie]

Okay here is a try

[B]Decade	Batsman   	Pacer         	Spinner     	All Rounder[/B]

1880's	Grace        	Spofforth   	Peel          	Ulyett
1890's	Ranji         	Lohmann   	Peel          	Noble
1900's	Hobbs       	Barnes      	Rhodes     	Faulkner
1920's	Hobbs       	Tate          	Freeman    	Gregory
1930's	Bradman   	Larwood    	Grimmett	Hammond
1940's	Bradman   	Lindwall	Toshack    	Miller
1950's	Sobers      	Hall           	Laker        	Benaud
1960's	Sobers      	Trueman    	Prasanna	Sobers
1970's	Gavaskar	Lillee	        Chandrashekhar	Botham
1980's	Richards	Hadlee/Marshall	Qadir	        Imran
1990's	Tendulkar	Donald      	Warne       	Cairns
2000's	Ponting     	McGrath    	Muralitharan	Kallis

Top list. But i'd have Gibbs over Prasanna , for spinner of the 60's.

 

[SJS]

And here are my XI's for each decade

[SIZE="3"][B]1880's        	1890's       	1900's       	1920's       	1930's   	1940's[/B]

[B][COLOR="Blue"]Grace  [/COLOR]      	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Darling[/COLOR]      	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Trumper[/COLOR]    	[COLOR="Blue"]Hobbs       	Hutton       	Hutton
Shrewsbury	Hayward    	Hobbs       	Sutcliffe	Sutcliffe[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Lime"]Mitchell[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Murdoch    	Hill    	Hill[/COLOR]    	[COLOR="Blue"]Hammond [/COLOR] [COLOR="DarkGreen"]	Bradman   	Bradman[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]Steel         	Ranji         	MacLaren  	Hendren    	Hammond [/COLOR] 	[COLOR="Lime"]Nourse[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]McDonnell[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Blue"]MacLaren	Jackson    	Woolley[/COLOR]     	[COLOR="DarkRed"]Headley [/COLOR]    	[COLOR="Blue"]Compton
Ulyett[/COLOR]        	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Noble[/COLOR]        	Faulkner	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Macartney	[/COLOR][COLOR="DarkGreen"]McCabe    	Miller[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]Briggs[/COLOR]       	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Giffen        	Noble        	Gregory[/COLOR]     	[COLOR="Blue"]Ames(k)        	Evans(k)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Blackham(k)[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Blue"]Peel          	Rhodes     	Tate          	Bowes[/COLOR]       	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Lindwall[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]Lohmann[/COLOR]   	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Blackham(k)[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Blue"]Foster[/COLOR]       	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Oldfield(k)[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Blue"]Larwood[/COLOR]    	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Johnston
Spofforth[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Blue"]Richardson[/COLOR]	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Carter (k)[/COLOR]     [COLOR="Blue"] Freeman [/COLOR]   	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Grimmett[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Blue"]Bedser
Peel          	Lohmann   	Barnes[/COLOR]      	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Mailey       	O'Reilly	Toshack[/COLOR][/B][/SIZE]

[B]1950's	1960's       	1970's       	1980's       	1990's      	2000's[/B]
[B][COLOR="Blue"]Hutton[/COLOR]	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Simpson[/COLOR]    	[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Gavaskar	Gavaskar[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Blue"]Gooch[/COLOR]       	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Hayden[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Worrell[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Lime"]Richards[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Blue"]Boycott[/COLOR]     	[COLOR="DarkRed"]Greenidge[/COLOR]	[COLOR="YellowGreen"]Anwar[/COLOR]       	[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Sehwag[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Harvey[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Lime"]Pollock[/COLOR]      	[COLOR="DarkRed"]Richards	Richards	Lara[/COLOR]          	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Ponting[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]May[/COLOR]	[COLOR="DarkRed"]Kanhai [/COLOR]     	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Chappell[/COLOR]	[COLOR="YellowGreen"]Miandad[/COLOR]    	[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Tendulkar	Tendulkar[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Weekes[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Blue"]Dexter[/COLOR]       	[COLOR="YellowGreen"]Miandad[/COLOR]    	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Border[/COLOR]       	[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]Aravinda[/COLOR]	Kallis
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Sobers	Sobers      	Sobers[/COLOR]      	[COLOR="YellowGreen"]Imran [/COLOR]       	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]S R Waugh[/COLOR]	[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]Jayawardene[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Benaud	Davidson[/COLOR]	[COLOR="Blue"]Botham[/COLOR]     	[COLOR="DarkRed"]Dujon(k) [/COLOR]   	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Healy(k)	Gilchrist(k)[/COLOR]

[COLOR="Blue"]Evans	Knott(k)     	Knott(k)[/COLOR]        Hadlee  	[COLOR="YellowGreen"]Akram[/COLOR]       	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Warne[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Blue"]Trueman[/COLOR]	Pollock      	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Lillee[/COLOR]         	[COLOR="DarkRed"]Marshall[/COLOR]	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Warne[/COLOR]       	Steyn
[COLOR="Blue"]Laker	Trueman[/COLOR]    	[COLOR="DarkRed"]Roberts     	Holding [/COLOR]     	[COLOR="Lime"]Donald [/COLOR]     	[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]Muralitharan[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"]Hall[/COLOR]	[COLOR="RoyalBlue"]Prasanna	Chandrasekhar[/COLOR]	[COLOR="YellowGreen"]Qadir	[/COLOR]        [COLOR="DarkRed"]Ambrose[/COLOR]   	[COLOR="DarkGreen"]McGrath[/COLOR][/B]

It is interesting to see from the changing colours how the domination of England and Australia was challenged from the fifties onwards by the newer Test nations. West Indies started dominating and the others joined in so that in the 80's decade border is the sole representative of the two original combatants.

Its interesting to note that the 80;s has the widest participation from the Test playing nations of the times. The competition from West Indies, India, Pakistan and even from New Zealand more or less reached its highest combined level by the 80's.

Another interesting sight is the demise of English bowling from at least two specialist bowlers in every decade (bar one) till the fifties, England have not a single representative in the last four decades. Yes it is my selection but it is indicative of the terrible malaise that afflicts English cricket. Great Test sides can not be built without at least two great bowlers and England hasn't shown much talent at the world stage for close to half a century now.

 

[jeevan]

Going by stats alone MoYo for the batsman of this century

 

[SJS]

Top list. But i'd have Gibbs over Prasanna , for spinner of the 60's.

I thought a lot about it. I have seen both of them bowl. Prasanna was a much more attacking bowler with more variations. Gibbs tended to be defensive by comparison and lacked the variety of Prasanna. This reflects in the difference in their strike rates.

Here are their figures for the decade (although I must stress that pure figures have not been the basis of my selection as can be easily seen.

[B]Bowler       	Tests	Wickets	Avg	St Rate	Wkts/Test[/B]
Gibbs        	42	184	27.9	84.2	4.38
Prasanna	22	113	27.1	67.8	5.14

It was a tough choice but I thought Prasanna of the sixties scored over Gibbs of the sixties

 

[SJS]

Going by stats alone MoYo for the batsman of this century

You are right. Only 34 batsmen have scored 5000 or more runs in a decade over the 132 years of test cricket. Of those 32 Yousuf has the highest average of 63.43. Barrington with 60.99 is the only other in the sixties. Unfortunately it wasn't enough for this selector to put him in his team for that decade

 

[MrIncredible]

Steve Waugh over Tendulkar in the 90s?

1990's
Opening Batsman: Gary Kirsten
Middle-Order Batsman: Sachin Tendulkar
Wicketkeeper: Ian Healy
Allrounder: Chris Cairns
Pace Bowler: Curtly Ambrose
Spin Bowler: Shane Warne

2000's
Opening Batsman: Matthew Hayden
Middle-Order Batsman: Ricky Ponting
Wicketkeeper: Adam Gilchrist
Allrounder: Jacques Kallis
Pace Bowler: Glenn McGrath
Spin Bowler: Shane Warne

y not have Steve Waugh over Sachin??