Build-up to Indian Domestic Season 2009-10 - Page 4

Pratters · 03-09-2009, 08:11 AM

Have always rated Tyagi and he has bowled well here at times. Just not consistent enough with the lines. He does bowl difficult deliveries at a good length though. A good long term prospect.

Arjun · 03-09-2009, 01:35 PM

Air India Blue pummelled India Revenue in their match. With MS Dhoni, RP Singh and Harbhajan Singh in their ranks, the less-fancied Revenue were no match for them. Dhoni smashed seven sixes to reach his century, while opener Bisla did better and finished with 150. Both centurions finished the innings unbeaten, and the innings ended at 362 for one after 42 overs. The wickets were shared equally, as Revenue finished at 222 for eight.

India Cements still lost the match against Air India Red, with Raina scoring a quick 92. He was subject to several short deliveries by Dravid's bowlers, particularly Balaji and Tyagi, and going by a Cricinfo article, it was quite a battle.

Indian Oil Corporation were knocked out of their group without facing or bowling a ball, as their matches were rained out, and the other match had a result. Clearly, rain has played spoilsport here.

Semis- India Cements, Air India Red, Air India Blue, ONGC.

Pratters · 03-09-2009, 03:55 PM

I do get Neo Sports now Arjun, have done for a while now, to answer your message on googletalk.

Raina's inning was terrible. Miscued shots, chances which were dropped and all his weaknesses exposed. If there were better bowlers bowling or even better fielders fielding, he would have been dismissed earlier. He has a long way to go to make an international class batsman.

EDIT - I looked at his record and was surprised he averages 45 in the last 2 years. Closer inspection shows the holes.

2008 - cashed in v minnows. 2009 has been better but I don't think this run will last.

_Chandan · 04-09-2009, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pratters

I do get Neo Sports now Arjun, have done for a while now, to answer your message on googletalk.

Raina's inning was terrible. Miscued shots, chances which were dropped and all his weaknesses exposed. If there were better bowlers bowling or even better fielders fielding, he would have been dismissed earlier. He has a long way to go to make an international class batsman.

EDIT - I looked at his record and was surprised he averages 45 in the last 2 years. Closer inspection shows the holes.

2008 - cashed in v minnows. 2009 has been better but I don't think this run will last.

Wonder who our test replacement going to be in a year's period! At the moment, I can't identify even one batsman who can bat at #3 in tests.

honestbharani · 04-09-2009, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by _Chandan

Wonder who our test replacement going to be in a year's period! At the moment, I can't identify even one batsman who can bat at #3 in tests.

Check my sig.

Arjun · 04-09-2009, 04:28 AM

I don't get Neo, haven't got it in the last week, and it seems most Delhi residents also don't get it, particularly the DTH subscribers.

Raina is not a Number 3 batsman and shouldn't be played as one, but too much is being made of his weakness against short balls. He's been selected as a limited-overs specialist, so he has batted like one, to meet the demands of ODI batting. He's profited from batting lower down the order or in the middle-overs, where fielding sides try to contain, but he's been found out when bowlers try to take wickets. That's what happens when he's played too much limited-overs cricket and too little of first-class. It will take a while before he makes the Test team, and hopefully he'll improve by that time, but he should stay on for ODIs, but batting lower down. A break once in a while when he can play FC cricket (domestic, India A or Board XI) will help a lot.

_Chandan · 06-09-2009, 06:12 AM

I do get Neo. And the most worrying thing in the Corporate trophy was that Ishant Sharma was bowling at 125k/h. Is it once again same story again? An India seamer starting fast but slowing down miraculously from his 2nd international season?

Manee · 06-09-2009, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by _Chandan

I do get Neo. And the most worrying thing in the Corporate trophy was that Ishant Sharma was bowling at 125k/h. Is it once again same story again? An India seamer starting fast but slowing down miraculously from his 2nd international season?

It is looking that way judging by how he bowled in the World T20. However, there is the possibility that he is slowing down because it is essentially a mickey mouse tournament.

Arjun · 06-09-2009, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Manee

It is looking that way judging by how he bowled in the World T20. However, there is the possibility that he is slowing down because it is essentially a mickey mouse tournament.

While that's surely a good idea, he needs this tournament as a workout for him and all the other India players and prospects. He's not been in the best of form, even losing his place in the team once, and could have used this tournament to bowl his way back to form. The captaincy has also been questionable, as we see him bowling second-change.

Arjun · 06-09-2009, 07:58 AM

Yesterday, Air India Red won the first semi by eight runs. The most notable contribution for Air India was by Sushant Marathe (top-order batsman for Mumbai), at 83 not out. The bowling wasn't doing too bad, but not too many wickets for the main bowlers.

A little earlier, we were talking about Raina's batting inadequacies. Yet we inexplicably find him bowling seven overs in the match. This needs to stop, so that he can concentrate on his batting. He's too valuable a batsman to waste on such a task. Likewise Yuvraj. Both of them were out cheaply. Uthappa, on the other hand, hung on gamely against the seamers, then attacked the spinners, to get a chunky score.

Air India Blue bowlers skittled out Tata SC for 267 in 49.4 overs. RP Singh took three wickets, while Pankaj Singh got four. Agarkar scored a rapid 53. Harbhajan went for a few runs too many, taking a wicket for 53 in a little over eight overs. Fifties were also scored by Ishank Jaggi and NS Shetty. Right now, Air India Blue are at 48 for no loss in nine overs.

Arjun · 06-09-2009, 08:23 AM

A wicket falls, as Maninder Bisla is stumped off Powar. For some reason, Kaif is sent in ahead of Dhoni. The match is at an interesting stage; it's 50-50 now.

Arjun · 06-09-2009, 10:13 AM

The match is easily in Air India Blue's grasp. Mohammed Kaif scores a 50, and opener/keeper Chandan Madan scores a century, which should strengthen his case for a place in the Kings XI IPL team.

I wonder how much Air India will benefit from this. They're not in the best of shape lately, and now both their teams made the finals of the Corporate Trophy.

Pratters · 06-09-2009, 10:26 AM

Kaif recently commented he had not given off hopes of an India recall yet.

Arjun · 06-09-2009, 11:57 AM

It's Air-India vs Air India in the final here. Air India Blue won by five wickets by VJD method.

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Kaif recently commented he had not given off hopes of an India recall yet.

He should be in the frame for ODIs. He's a very smart batsman, fast runner between wickets and also one of the best fielders in India, though he faces competition from Badrinath.

Pratters · 06-09-2009, 12:08 PM

Yeah, agreed Arjun. Would love to see Kaif back in the team.

03-09-2009, 01:35 PM	#47 (permalink)
Arjun Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,835	Air India Blue pummelled India Revenue in their match. With MS Dhoni, RP Singh and Harbhajan Singh in their ranks, the less-fancied Revenue were no match for them. Dhoni smashed seven sixes to reach his century, while opener Bisla did better and finished with 150. Both centurions finished the innings unbeaten, and the innings ended at 362 for one after 42 overs. The wickets were shared equally, as Revenue finished at 222 for eight. India Cements still lost the match against Air India Red, with Raina scoring a quick 92. He was subject to several short deliveries by Dravid's bowlers, particularly Balaji and Tyagi, and going by a Cricinfo article, it was quite a battle. Indian Oil Corporation were knocked out of their group without facing or bowling a ball, as their matches were rained out, and the other match had a result. Clearly, rain has played spoilsport here. Semis- India Cements, Air India Red, Air India Blue, ONGC. __________________ "Talent is nothing without opportunity" "You're not remembered for aiming at the target, but hitting it" Twenty20 used to be boring. Sponsored...by...nothing!!!

03-09-2009, 03:55 PM	#48 (permalink)
Pratters Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 20,794	I do get Neo Sports now Arjun, have done for a while now, to answer your message on googletalk. Raina's inning was terrible. Miscued shots, chances which were dropped and all his weaknesses exposed. If there were better bowlers bowling or even better fielders fielding, he would have been dismissed earlier. He has a long way to go to make an international class batsman. EDIT - I looked at his record and was surprised he averages 45 in the last 2 years. Closer inspection shows the holes. 2008 - cashed in v minnows. 2009 has been better but I don't think this run will last. Last edited by Pratters; 03-09-2009 at 04:00 PM.

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03-09-2009, 08:11 AM	#46 (permalink)
Pratters Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 20,794	Have always rated Tyagi and he has bowled well here at times. Just not consistent enough with the lines. He does bowl difficult deliveries at a good length though. A good long term prospect.

04-09-2009, 04:28 AM	#51 (permalink)
Arjun Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,835	I don't get Neo, haven't got it in the last week, and it seems most Delhi residents also don't get it, particularly the DTH subscribers. Raina is not a Number 3 batsman and shouldn't be played as one, but too much is being made of his weakness against short balls. He's been selected as a limited-overs specialist, so he has batted like one, to meet the demands of ODI batting. He's profited from batting lower down the order or in the middle-overs, where fielding sides try to contain, but he's been found out when bowlers try to take wickets. That's what happens when he's played too much limited-overs cricket and too little of first-class. It will take a while before he makes the Test team, and hopefully he'll improve by that time, but he should stay on for ODIs, but batting lower down. A break once in a while when he can play FC cricket (domestic, India A or Board XI) will help a lot.

06-09-2009, 06:12 AM	#52 (permalink)
_Chandan Cricket Spectator Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: India Posts: 15	I do get Neo. And the most worrying thing in the Corporate trophy was that Ishant Sharma was bowling at 125k/h. Is it once again same story again? An India seamer starting fast but slowing down miraculously from his 2nd international season?

06-09-2009, 07:58 AM	#55 (permalink)
Arjun Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,835	Yesterday, Air India Red won the first semi by eight runs. The most notable contribution for Air India was by Sushant Marathe (top-order batsman for Mumbai), at 83 not out. The bowling wasn't doing too bad, but not too many wickets for the main bowlers. A little earlier, we were talking about Raina's batting inadequacies. Yet we inexplicably find him bowling seven overs in the match. This needs to stop, so that he can concentrate on his batting. He's too valuable a batsman to waste on such a task. Likewise Yuvraj. Both of them were out cheaply. Uthappa, on the other hand, hung on gamely against the seamers, then attacked the spinners, to get a chunky score. Air India Blue bowlers skittled out Tata SC for 267 in 49.4 overs. RP Singh took three wickets, while Pankaj Singh got four. Agarkar scored a rapid 53. Harbhajan went for a few runs too many, taking a wicket for 53 in a little over eight overs. Fifties were also scored by Ishank Jaggi and NS Shetty. Right now, Air India Blue are at 48 for no loss in nine overs.

06-09-2009, 08:23 AM	#56 (permalink)
Arjun Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,835	A wicket falls, as Maninder Bisla is stumped off Powar. For some reason, Kaif is sent in ahead of Dhoni. The match is at an interesting stage; it's 50-50 now.

06-09-2009, 10:13 AM	#57 (permalink)
Arjun Cricketer Of The Year Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Mumbai, India Posts: 7,835	The match is easily in Air India Blue's grasp. Mohammed Kaif scores a 50, and opener/keeper Chandan Madan scores a century, which should strengthen his case for a place in the Kings XI IPL team. I wonder how much Air India will benefit from this. They're not in the best of shape lately, and now both their teams made the finals of the Corporate Trophy.

06-09-2009, 10:26 AM	#58 (permalink)
Pratters Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 20,794	Kaif recently commented he had not given off hopes of an India recall yet.

06-09-2009, 12:08 PM	#60 (permalink)
Pratters Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Kolkata, India Posts: 20,794	Yeah, agreed Arjun. Would love to see Kaif back in the team.

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