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    Well they can **** off. Why would they get first dibbs on him after Otago if his franchise don't want him anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel_Vimes View Post
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    was reffering to reports like this

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    I don't know anything about this champions league thing but are you saying that if NSW want McCullum he has to play for them, he can't choose Otago. That has to be the biggest joke ever. The winning team gets what, 12 millon dollars. NSW better be prepared to fork out atleast 4-5 million I would say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by biased indian View Post
    was reffering to reports like this

    Link -- > UEFA object to BCCI for Champions League nomenclature
    Interesting. As said, they haven't had problems with the mentioned sports. (Though they are admittedly smaller on the world stage, they're considerably larger than cricket in UEFA countries.)

    It may be that they only have a problem with BCCI applying for a worldwide trademark - which is understandable as that would conceivably stop UEFA calling their tournament the Champions League. So BCCI might find another name because they want a trademarked name, not because UEFA ban it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Howsie View Post
    I don't know anything about this champions league thing but are you saying that if NSW want McCullum he has to play for them, he can't choose Otago. That has to be the biggest joke ever. The winning team gets what, 12 millon dollars. NSW better be prepared to fork out atleast 4-5 million I would say.
    Pretty sure the rules are IPL sides first (or atleast have first right to pay local domestic side), then domestic side and then any other overseas side they play for. Anyway we got Jaques to replace Warner, atleast he can score runs in more then one game in every 10, like the other two.

    Mind you there probably a certain value that the IPL can pay the domestic side. So I guess any other overseas side can pay that amount. Though with the side we could have at full strength, McCullum probably not worth the pay out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chaminda_00 View Post
    Pretty sure the rules are IPL sides first (or atleast have first right to pay local domestic side), then domestic side and then any other overseas side they play for. Anyway we got Jaques to replace Warner, atleast he can score runs in more then one game in every 10, like the other two.
    So this tournamet is very heavly favoured for the IPL teams I guess. Lets say your Victoria and you qualify for this league, and you loose White, Hodge, Harwood, Quiney, and Hussey because KKR, RCB and RR are the top three teams. What would be the point of even going over there, I guess they would still get some prize money but it isn't really that fair.

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    Its not fair, but are you sure that the players can't choose?

    I'm pretty sure the players have the ultimate decision, but will obviously go where the money is. Particularly since the pay-out the domestic side receives is substantial.

    Imagine if the player chose the domestic team, and then failed miserably, costing them all that money
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    Wayamba will be flying thr Lankan flag, two massive names and some decent Twenty20 specialist:

    Jeevantha Kulatunga
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    Ishara Amerasinghe/Chanaka Welegedara

    Maharoof also plays for Wayamba, but you would think Delhi will want him in their squad. The squad also would include a young seamer in Shalika Karunanayake, former Test opener Micheal Vandort and former U19 keeper batsmen Sameera de Zoysa.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    Its not fair, but are you sure that the players can't choose?

    I'm pretty sure the players have the ultimate decision, but will obviously go where the money is. Particularly since the pay-out the domestic side receives is substantial.

    Imagine if the player chose the domestic team, and then failed miserably, costing them all that money
    Micheal Hussey wanted to choice Western Australia at the time of last year's tournment. But was forced to decide Chennai, as that where his bread is buttered and WA wanted the compo money. Effectively they can't choice.

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    But if WA didn't want the money, but Chennai wanted to pay and get Hussey, what happens?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    But if WA didn't want the money, but Chennai wanted to pay and get Hussey, what happens?
    Cricinfo - IPL teams to get first pick on players - Modi

    That was from last year, sounds like if the IPL wants a player they get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono View Post
    But if WA didn't want the money, but Chennai wanted to pay and get Hussey, what happens?
    In the end WA were basically told to take the money and Hussey was going to play for Chennai. The only time I can see a player not playing for their IPL side is if they are about to be cut from the squad, but even then they will probably play them for options.

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    I love the idea of this tournament in theory but it doesn't sit easily to me that players competing in it will be members of two or more teams - always likely to be the problem with a cricket tournament of this nature though. I'm sure there was something else I was complaining about ahead of the last one that never ended up going ahead - something to do with not being able to select certain players that I thought was a bit silly. BUT I'll try and limit my complaining as it is great to see domestic cricketers getting this kind of opportunity.
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    I would expect that in the future, the team that they would represent in the event of a conflict will be written into their contracts. I would be surprised if Bangalore paid Pietersen $1.5million only to see him play for Middlesex (as an example), competing against them in the Champions League. The same thing applies to contracts for other domestic sides - e.g, Middlesex may want the same thing in their contracts to make sure an IPL team doesn't steal their player away.

    The players could rightly object to that clause in the contract, but then they may be sacrificing either the contract, or taking a paycut as a result. I don't expect it'll be left up to the players for much longer - from either side. It's a huge financial investment, and the potential earnings are substantial.
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    My general disapproval of this tournament & that crazy P20 the ECB are proposing is well documented, so i won't dileberate.

    But when players can't take this overkill anymore & preferrting T20's big bucks for the pride of playing for the international side. Then the ICC will catch itself & hopefully get reformed....

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