Champions League Expanded from Eight to Twelve Teams

[Howsie]

Pretty sure the rules are IPL sides first (or atleast have first right to pay local domestic side), then domestic side and then any other overseas side they play for. Anyway we got Jaques to replace Warner, atleast he can score runs in more then one game in every 10, like the other two.

So this tournamet is very heavly favoured for the IPL teams I guess. Lets say your Victoria and you qualify for this league, and you loose White, Hodge, Harwood, Quiney, and Hussey because KKR, RCB and RR are the top three teams. What would be the point of even going over there, I guess they would still get some prize money but it isn't really that fair.

 

[Jono]

Its not fair, but are you sure that the players can't choose?

I'm pretty sure the players have the ultimate decision, but will obviously go where the money is. Particularly since the pay-out the domestic side receives is substantial.

Imagine if the player chose the domestic team, and then failed miserably, costing them all that money

 

[chaminda_00]

Wayamba will be flying thr Lankan flag, two massive names and some decent Twenty20 specialist:

Jeevantha Kulatunga
Mahela Udawatte
Jehan Mubarak
Mahela Jayawardene (c)
Lanka de Silva (wk)
Kaushal Lokuarachchi
Thissara Perera
Isuru Udana
Rangana Herath
Ajantha Mendis
Ishara Amerasinghe/Chanaka Welegedara

Maharoof also plays for Wayamba, but you would think Delhi will want him in their squad. The squad also would include a young seamer in Shalika Karunanayake, former Test opener Micheal Vandort and former U19 keeper batsmen Sameera de Zoysa.

 

[chaminda_00]

Its not fair, but are you sure that the players can't choose?

I'm pretty sure the players have the ultimate decision, but will obviously go where the money is. Particularly since the pay-out the domestic side receives is substantial.

Imagine if the player chose the domestic team, and then failed miserably, costing them all that money

Micheal Hussey wanted to choice Western Australia at the time of last year's tournment. But was forced to decide Chennai, as that where his bread is buttered and WA wanted the compo money. Effectively they can't choice.

 

[Jono]

But if WA didn't want the money, but Chennai wanted to pay and get Hussey, what happens?

 

[Howsie]

But if WA didn't want the money, but Chennai wanted to pay and get Hussey, what happens?

Cricinfo - IPL teams to get first pick on players - Modi

That was from last year, sounds like if the IPL wants a player they get him.

 

[chaminda_00]

But if WA didn't want the money, but Chennai wanted to pay and get Hussey, what happens?

In the end WA were basically told to take the money and Hussey was going to play for Chennai. The only time I can see a player not playing for their IPL side is if they are about to be cut from the squad, but even then they will probably play them for options.

 

[GIMH]

I love the idea of this tournament in theory but it doesn't sit easily to me that players competing in it will be members of two or more teams - always likely to be the problem with a cricket tournament of this nature though. I'm sure there was something else I was complaining about ahead of the last one that never ended up going ahead - something to do with not being able to select certain players that I thought was a bit silly. BUT I'll try and limit my complaining as it is great to see domestic cricketers getting this kind of opportunity.

 

[silentstriker]

I would expect that in the future, the team that they would represent in the event of a conflict will be written into their contracts. I would be surprised if Bangalore paid Pietersen $1.5million only to see him play for Middlesex (as an example), competing against them in the Champions League. The same thing applies to contracts for other domestic sides - e.g, Middlesex may want the same thing in their contracts to make sure an IPL team doesn't steal their player away.

The players could rightly object to that clause in the contract, but then they may be sacrificing either the contract, or taking a paycut as a result. I don't expect it'll be left up to the players for much longer - from either side. It's a huge financial investment, and the potential earnings are substantial.

 

[aussie]

My general disapproval of this tournament & that crazy P20 the ECB are proposing is well documented, so i won't dileberate.

But when players can't take this overkill anymore & preferrting T20's big bucks for the pride of playing for the international side. Then the ICC will catch itself & hopefully get reformed....

 

[silentstriker]

Then the ICC will catch itself & hopefully get reformed....

Yes, some guy in the ICC will decide it's all wrong and will convince all the boards who make up the ICC to give up their power. Yup, good plan.

 

[Smith]

Champions League now part of ICC FTP: Modi - News - News - Cricket on Times of India

Brilliant.

 

[rivera213]

The logistics in regards to team members for Bangalore isn't that difficult for the most part: Dillon du Preez will play for the Diamond Eagles, Nathan Bracken will play for NSW & Cameron White will play for Victoria.

For the others, I'm sure Gibbs will play for the Cape Cobras, Nannes for Victoria and Maharoof for Wayamba since they are the teams who hold their contracts and would severly object to the IPL teams having first say.

So there aren't too many clashes tbh.

Hopefully the rules will be relaxed in regards to having 3 under-23 players and 7 Indian for the IPL teams.

If so, you're probably looking at:

BANGALORE:
Pandey/Ryder
Kallis
Pietersen
Dravid
Taylor
Boucher (wk)
van der Merwe
Praveen Kumar
Vinay Kumar
Steyn
Kumble (c)

DECCAN:
Gilchrist (wk and c)
Rohit
Laxman
Symonds
Smith
Styris
Vaas
Edwards
Ojha
Harris
RP Singh

DEHLI:
Gambhir
Sehwag (c)
Dilshan
De Villiers
Karthik
Collingwood
Manhas (wk)
Vettori
Pragyan
Mishra
Nehra

NSW:
Hughes
Katich/Jaques
Warner
Khawaja
Clarke (wouldn't pick him myself, but he's bound to play)
Haddin (wk)
Henriques
Lee
Bracken
Clark
****ley/Hauritz/Casson/Bollinger

VICTORIA:
Quiney
Blizzard
Hodge
D.Hussey
White (c)
Crosthwaite (wk)
Finch
McDonald
Nannes
Siddle
Harwood

CAPE COBRAS:
Smith (c)
Gibbs
Duminy
Ontong
Peterson
Kleinveldt
Davids
Philander
Canning (wk)
Langeveldt
Zondeki

DIAMOND EAGLES (only 10 contracted players inc 2 WK's atm):
van Wyk (wk)
?
Elgar
Dippenaar (c)
Bailey
Bosman
du Preez
CJ de Villiers
Mpitsang
Tshabalala
?

OTAGO VOLTS:
B.McCullum (wk and c)
Cumming
Redmond
Rutherford
Broom
Todd
Macarenhas (if Hampshire aren't 1 of the English teams)
N.McCullum
McSkimming
Butler
Wagner

T and T:
Simmons
Guillen
D.Ganga (c)
Dwayne Bravo
Ramdin (wk)
Pollard
Cruickshank
S.Ganga
Badree
Rampaul
Jaggernauth

WAYAMBA: (Stole Chaminda's but exchanged Perera for Maharoof)
Kulatunga
Udawatte
Mubarak (c)
Jayawardene
de Silva (wk)
Lokuarachchi
Udana
Herath
Maharoof
Mendis
Welegedara

 

[silentstriker]

Champions League now part of ICC FTP: Modi*-*News*-*News*-*Cricket on Times of India

It was already a de-facto part of the ICC FTP. Australia, South Africa, England and India were going to participate and not play internationals during this time anyway.

 

[Smith]

The logistics in regards to team members for Bangalore isn't that difficult for the most part: Dillon du Preez will play for the Diamond Eagles, Nathan Bracken will play for NSW & Cameron White will play for Victoria.

For the others, I'm sure Gibbs will play for the Cape Cobras, Nannes for Victoria and Maharoof for Wayamba since they are the teams who hold their contracts and would severly object to the IPL teams having first say.

Come rain, sunshine or apocalypse, IPL teams will have the first right of refusal. There is nothing the other teams can do about it, unless they are willing to pay through their nose.

 

[aussie]

Yes, some guy in the ICC will decide it's all wrong and will convince all the boards who make up the ICC to give up their power. Yup, good plan.

Bun the sarcasm shotta, ya done know all these T20 tournaments in this already packed schedule will cause a problem in the future...

 

[silentstriker]

Bun the sarcasm shotta, ya done know all these T20 tournaments in this already packed schedule will cause a problem in the future...

With who? India owns 50% of CL, CA owns 30% of it, 20% is owned by SA. England are now partners too. They are going to now include sides from NZ, WI and SL soon.

Who is going to complain?

 

[Smith]

With who? India owns 50% of CL, CA owns 30% of it, 20% is owned by SA. England are now partners too. They are going to now include sides from NZ, WI and SL soon.

Who is going to complain?

BD and Pakistan.

 

[silentstriker]

Yea, that's going to get results. CA, BCCI, ECB, CSA vs. BD and Pakistan

 

[aussie]

With who? India owns 50% of CL, CA owns 30% of it, 20% is owned by SA. England are now partners too. They are going to now include sides from NZ, WI and SL soon.

Who is going to complain?

Only positive i can see in this tournament is average players of the various nations will have a chance to earn big bucks. Since with the packed international schedule the international players will be hard pressed to be involved in this.

So the who is the international regulars.